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Old 02-24-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?

 
Old 02-24-2019, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?
Yes, they should both be equally scared of being held up.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Planet Earth, USA
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?
I'm not a feminist.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?
I would say rather that in THEORY, men and women are equivalent.

In any specific situation all bets are off. If I was with a clearly disabled man in a wheelchair I might respond differently than if I were with a Navy Seal! But perhaps it is smarter for the person less able to defend themselves to flee and try to get help? Of course if one person flees then there is no one to "defend" so maybe both should make a run for it?

Who knows? You clearly have an agenda you want to support so no matter what is said here you will keep making adjustments to the situation you describe to make it work out for you. Have fun.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 08:00 AM
 
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?
Fear is an equalizer
 
Old 02-24-2019, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Nantahala National Forest, NC
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I would say rather that in THEORY, men and women are equivalent.

In any specific situation all bets are off. If I was with a clearly disabled man in a wheelchair I might respond differently than if I were with a Navy Seal! But perhaps it is smarter for the person less able to defend themselves to flee and try to get help? Of course if one person flees then there is no one to "defend" so maybe both should make a run for it?






Who knows? You clearly have an agenda you want to support so no matter what is said here you will keep making adjustments to the situation you describe to make it work out for you. Have fun.

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Indeed. You want someone to say yes she's a coward?

Consider your real goal here, OP.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 09:34 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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I am a regular at a pretty seedy bar....

When guys get into a fight. People get hurt. Seriously hurt. Police get called and people get arrested.

When girls get into a fight. Rarely does it escalate to the same level. Sure... some people get hurt but not to the same extent. Guys stay out of it because laying a hand, even if to try and defuse the situation, could involve another guy which is what we all want to avoid. Police rarely get called.... its all taken care of by the bouncers.

In general... of course there are exceptions... typical male can over power very quickly a smaller female and cause some real hurt.

It is what it is... that's just the differences between genders.... it is the reality.


So in the scenario described in OP, the woman running off isn't about being a coward. It is about knowing when it is a good time to stand and when it is best to exit... especially if she is up against a significantly larger threat. Similarly, a single guy choosing to avoid a frontal assault from 5 other guys isn't a coward either. There is a fine line between being brave and stupid.
 
Old 02-24-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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But feminists say men and women are equal, then in such a scenario should it not be equal?
You don't seem to understand feminism and would rather redefine it so that you can paint females in bad light.

Feminism defined:

the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes.

wiki:

Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social equality of sexes.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish educational and professional opportunities for women that are equal to those for men.

Feminism isn't about ignoring or eliminating the natural differences of genders.... Its not about making women more male nor castrating/emasculation of men to achieve equality on ALL levels.


Sure there are way far off feminists that voice loudly their irrational views..... while I tend to side with feminists (mostly traditional ones of years ago), I find those crazy feminists very annoying and off base. They actually do more harm than good for the cause (and the OPs reaction to them is one case of it). For the most part, feminism has achieved its goals or set the direction in motion. Its time for those far off feminists of today to find other causes to get upset over.

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Old 02-24-2019, 09:46 AM
 
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While hopefully no one ends up in a scenario like this, I am curious. Say a man and woman were held up by someone with a knife/gun and told them to give them anything they had; while obviously if say the man ran away leaving his woman even if she wasn't hurt he would be viewed as a total coward and awful boyfriend/husband, in the same scenario if the woman just ran away leaving her boyfriend/husband and he got injured/killed would you view her also a coward? Now, I get it, as a man it's going to be easier to defend each other and I certainly agree with it, I know I would definitely defend my fiance no matter what. But
So what is it exactly, a woman is expected to DO in this scenario? Beat the assailant with...her cellphone? He manicured nails or high heels?
 
Old 02-24-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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How do people conjur up these questions?

I suppose it just depends. If the woman in question believes in chivalry then, no, she can’t be considered a coward. If she believes in today’s brand of feminism the it’s fair to say she is a coward in your scenario.
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