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The statistic doesn't surprise me. After all, women were attracted to only 20% of men for as long as humans inhabited this piece of solidified lava. Only for most of civilized history, societies had enforced pair-bonding. Then the 1960's came. Today, with feminism and #MeToo, young women are kicking most men to the curb like a soccer ball at a World Cup game, instead having sex mainly with Chads. So it all adds up: the total number of sexual pairings remains more-or-less flat (each penis simply enters more vaginas), but the number of young male virgins rises.
Yep. All "feminism's" fault.
We should embrace old school values, and teach our daughters to have sex with any men who want to have sex with them. Forget this selfish, "feminist" concern for what THEY want in a man and a relationship, or for wanting to be with men, who, like, they're attracted to and feel compatible with. Female desires don't matter.
This is how is was back in the good old days before "feminism" destroyed everything.
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The statistic doesn't surprise me. After all, women were attracted to only 20% of men for as long as humans inhabited this piece of solidified lava. Only for most of civilized history, societies had enforced pair-bonding. Then the 1960's came. Today, with feminism and #MeToo, young women are kicking most men to the curb like a soccer ball at a World Cup game, instead having sex mainly with Chads. So it all adds up: the total number of sexual pairings remains more-or-less flat (each penis simply enters more vaginas), but the number of young male virgins rises.
Pure projection - maybe it is MEN who are only attracted to the top 20% of women (certainly in terms of looks)? How did you even arrive at this 20% figure anyway - any research AT ALL to back that up? So many men ***** and moan about the lack of women but are only attracted to 8's and above - all others are beneath them...well, not literally, forgive the intended pun.
It's porn! You don't have to date, support, or shower to use porn. Porn never says no, gives you an STD, or gets pregnant.
Go even deeper and a lot of it is economics. Fewer young men can get jobs that pay enough to date and get a real partner. Or do their share to support a family.
This is what I'm saying. In the 80s or 90s, it was a big deal. It was unheard of. And I don't mean being a virgin at age 32. Plenty of people were. I'm talking about admitting it. Some people are even proud to announce that now.
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Really? A "real" survey is not done out in the street by a mic-carrying newscaster who is broadcasting your image and answers to the public. Nearly all surveys are done online with complete privacy and confidentiality. No reason for ANYONE to lie, unless you're lying to yourself and that's kind of hard to do about whether you're having sex or not. I'm not buying this as an explanation - you may complain more openly to friends, but survey honesty won't have changed much over the years.
Men these days are certainly more open about blaming women for their lack of sex and thus giving up with little effort, but that's another matter entirely.
Yes, really. Views have changed a lot over the years. Most people in the 80s and 90s wouldn't even admit to masturbating.
I mean, some women have this stranger thing going on that makes them unapproachable in public and prefer the online dating option instead (and you know how that can be for men). Both men and women are opting to online dating as opposed to chance meetings in person at a grocery store, gym, and so on.
It so weird that these are the only two options you can imagine. Almost everyone I know, of all ages, met their partners through mutual friends, work colleagues or shared activities. But that seems so foreign to you. Have you had any dating experience?
There is a growing population of beta male millennials that want to get high, play video games, live in their parents basement, and beat off to pornhub rather than seeks an intimate relationship. Wait until these “men” hit their 40’s they will be one sad bunch.
They aren't all sad, necessarily. Nor do they all live at home. I know a few guys like this who just rent cheap studio apartments and live a simple life based around gaming or socializing with friends doing those live role playing games like Dungeons and Dragons and what not.
If they're sad, they're sad, but I disagree with the idea that someone is sad just because they're living a life different than what's typically thought of as "good". Some people like to do their own thing and don't want the pressure of a family to take care of.
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They don't even effg talk on the phone anymore, it's all about how smart you can be in text or online garbage .
This is just you projecting your preferences onto others. There's nothing inherently better or healthier about talking on the phone vs text. I've maintained a very close relationship with my best friend in another state for years now, and we only communicate through text. She and I tell each other everything in great detail.
Text has many advantages. You can think about what you're going to say before you press send and make sure it's worded the way you want. You can take a few minutes to think about your response to something rather than blurting out some dumbsh*t thing that's gonna get you in trouble.
Just because some people don't get how to properly communicate via text doesn't mean it can't be done. I'm sure people back in the day had the same complaints about talking on the phone vs being in person. The times, and the methods of communication, change as the decades go on.
Older people just don't get it. I once had my grandma accuse me of being addicted to my phone because I was having a long conversation with my best friend when she was upset over something and needing support. I explained that I was having a conversation and asked if my grandma would hang up on a friend halfway through a phone call. She thought about it a second and then said she understood and she'd never thought about it that way before.
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This is what I'm saying. In the 80s or 90s, it was a big deal. It was unheard of. And I don't mean being a virgin at age 32. Plenty of people were. I'm talking about admitting it. Some people are even proud to announce that now.
They should be proud! It's way better to be a virgin later in life than it is to have a bunch of sex you regret. Who cares if you're a virgin anyway? I've been with guys who'd had a lot of experience and sucked in bed so it really doesn't matter.
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Not sure how a video game obsession is even connected to lack of getting laid. It's a hobby like any other, but anything that's not in moderation can be problematic. There are sports fanatics, too. I guess sports fanatics get laid, but video game players don't? Hell, I know married men over 40 with wives and kids that are gamers.
Yep, lots of women are gamers. My mom was a gamer back in the 90s when I was growing up! She kind of lost interest over time, but my dad is still a passionate gamer. They're both in their late 60s. So women being gamers is nothing new.
Of course it's true that one can be addicted to anything, but that's a different matter.
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This is so true.
People went out and socialized. Now they are lost in the cyber world. Scary.
That didn't happen because of the cyber world necessarily, though. This is a chicken or egg thing.
I stopped attempting to socialize because it's often difficult. People are irritating, dramatic, and in my experience, true friends are VERY few and far between. I have a handful of them scattered across the world, and I love them.
I'm not very interested in shallow relationships with acquaintances for the most part. 99% of the acquaintances I've had in my life never became true friends. Most of them brought stress to my life if anything, and over time, I socialized less and less.
It's definitely true, like I said in an earlier post, that if we didn't have the internet we'd be forced to socialize more out of pure boredom, but I don't think I'd necessarily be happier if that was the case. In fact, I will go as far as to say in a world without the internet, I'd probably have committed suicide already.
So maybe the internet is creating some sort of false platform of happiness that isn't true to real life or whatever. But for a lot of us who don't fit into this world anyway, it's pretty much allowed us to survive.
Not to mention the fact that I met the majority of my real-life friends online. And it likely wouldn't have happened on its own considering they live in other parts of the world.
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What about the growing sentiment that you don't have to get laid and lie to your friends about it to remain 'manly'?
And that girls don't feel like they have to put out to be popular or get people interested in them?
I mean, some women have this stranger thing going on that makes them unapproachable in public and prefer the online dating option instead (and you know how that can be for men). Both men and women are opting to online dating as opposed to chance meetings in person at a grocery store, gym, and so on.
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Originally Posted by zentropa
It so weird that these are the only two options you can imagine. Almost everyone I know, of all ages, met their partners through mutual friends, work colleagues or shared activities. But that seems so foreign to you. Have you had any dating experience?
Suggestion for ThisTown123: take a night course or two at a local college. I think you'll be surprised how easy it is to meet people.
So, online dating services and hook-ups aren't working? ...
Maybe those unfortunate need to change their strategies? Try the old fashioned ways, perhaps? Learn how to socialize with real people (face to face vs gadget to gadget) and those who live nearby?
I agree. Look what happens on this forum when someone wants advice on making an in person approach and the 689 replies with reasons not to....
"She's/He's at the library to read, not meet people "
"She's/He's at the grocery store for food, not be hit on!"
"She's/He's your classmate and it'll be awkward to have to sit in the same classroom!"
"At a bar? Are you kidding!!!???"
"You might get #metoo'd" (Whatever that means)
"It's creepy" (Not if you have social skills)
And on and on and on. Elnina is right. Socialization is like a lot of things. It takes practice, patience and learning what works and what doesn't and makes you better over time. It's not just approaching and talking to people, but general self improvement. And it's fine to mingle and discuss in cyber world as we are now, but it's not a replacement.
The statistic doesn't surprise me. After all, women were attracted to only 20% of men for as long as humans inhabited this piece of solidified lava. Only for most of civilized history, societies had enforced pair-bonding. Then the 1960's came. Today, with feminism and #MeToo, young women are kicking most men to the curb like a soccer ball at a World Cup game, instead having sex mainly with Chads. So it all adds up: the total number of sexual pairings remains more-or-less flat (each penis simply enters more vaginas), but the number of young male virgins rises.
LOL... "Chads"... they always out themselves with some inane MGTOW terminology...
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