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Old 08-04-2019, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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I’ve employed every bit of the platitudinous advice given to me...
Platitudes are called that because they're used often, and they're used often for a reason.

Read this reply in a thread written overnight by another guy who wants to "get" a girlfriend without seeming to have any idea about how relationships work or how to related to women as people. A relationship isn't something we are all owed. It's not guaranteed, and even after "working hard" to correct what you assume are the problems keeping you from "acquiring" what you want, you may not connect with anyone.

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Life pro tip. MOST women don't walk around waiting to be "approached" by guys. Most women want to have *something* in common with the guys before the thought of going out with them even crosses their mind. My daughter learned at the ripe old age of 13 that boys will ask her out just because she is pretty. They don't know jack about her. What kind of music she likes. What she likes to do for fun. Many of us don't LIKE the fact that the only thing that a guy considers is whether or not she has an owner... um, husband or boyfriend.

Most of us, when making the big exciting trip to Target to acquire a man, are actually not. We are there to get our housewares, our cleaning supplies. I can tell you what I am thinking when it happens to me. Because, despite what one guy is saying up thread, it does happen. And quite a lot. I am pushing my cart with my groceries. And a guy asks me what I am doing? I look at him for a second as if he lost his mind. Um, pushing my groceries to my car where I will unload them. Can I help??!! No, (um) thanks. I have arms. And hands. What are you doing tonight? This is where I start to get annoyed. And want to reply something like ... well not punching you in the face since I am going to do that right here, right now. Of course I don't say that. I smile and say something benign like, none of your business...

Men. Stop. Just Stop. If you don't have a life, get one. A girlfriend is not magically going to get one for you.

I was chatting with a guy from OKC. When I asked him what he liked to do for fun, he said he never really did anything but work. When he gets a woman, he wants the woman to light up his life. Think about that. What FUN! I cannot WAIT to take on the responsibility for lighting up someone's life! Giving them the wild and cray idea to go DO SOMETHING.

Just no.
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Old 08-04-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: San Antonio/Houston/Tricity
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I know this is the only way I could ever get close to having a girlfriend. If I had to go about it the normal way, I would never get one.
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without going into detail, I will just say that getting a girlfriend the normal way is completely out of the question. It just won’t happen. That’s just the way it is.
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There is a barrier to my success with women that I can only explain as metaphysical in nature. It’s truly remarkable.
Why a 28 year old man would say that? Anything major wrong with you? Perhaps we should evaluate it first.
Is wanting a "stranger to play GF for money" some sort of deviation?

I would like OP to clarify the term "undesirable".
If he is so undesirable, than maybe no amount of money would be enough to endure his presence

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. I just want a woman in my life, and I’m probably going to have to pay for it.
All men pay for having a woman in their life. One way or another.

It starts with taking out to dates, then buying expensive engagement ring, then having wedding, buying her house and a car and sometimes ending with giving a half of all they have plus paying alimony in divorce settlement.

Others pay for substitutes, prostitutes, escorts, hooking up, one night stands, STS medical expenses, or plastic dolls.

Some just want to be a sugar daddy.

Your choice.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:26 PM
 
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Youíre know, as much complaining as I do, and notwithstanding the effort Iíve put forth, I still believe I havenít tried hard enough. I know that if I worked on my look, I could be much fitter, muscular, and better looking than I am now. I could also work on my personality and charm. I honestly donít blame or hate women for their hypergamy, and their shunning of inferior men. Thatís just the way things are, and that feature is there to ensure that the woman is selecting the best genetics. I actually encourage that.

Actually, if there are any females here who might be interested, I would like to share some photos of myself to get your brutally honest opinion of my looks. Please let me know if you would like to see them.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:39 PM
 
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Isn't this like prostitution but instead of the shame you feel for doing it once, you have the shame of knowing you're doing it all the time. If you're going to go down that route, why not just go the whole hog and get a mail order bride.

I find this post incredibly sad. OP I bet you can get more out of life than this.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Youíre know, as much complaining as I do, and notwithstanding the effort Iíve put forth, I still believe I havenít tried hard enough. I know that if I worked on my look, I could be much fitter, muscular, and better looking than I am now. I could also work on my personality and charm. I honestly donít blame or hate women for their hypergamy, and their shunning of inferior men. Thatís just the way things are, and that feature is there to ensure that the woman is selecting the best genetics. I actually encourage that.

Actually, if there are any females here who might be interested, I would like to share some photos of myself to get your brutally honest opinion of my looks. Please let me know if you would like to see them.
Sure, DM me the pix.

You're using some problematic language, though, OP.
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Old 08-04-2019, 08:52 PM
 
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Sure, DM me the pix.

You're using some problematic language, though, OP.
If you like DM me. I will give you my honest opinion without being mean.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:56 PM
 
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Iíve recently been thinking about how to get a girlfriend. Iíve actually been dwelling on this for years. But recently Iíve thought about the idea of just ďhiringĒ a girlfriend.

I donít mean like a prostitute. It would essentially be a situation wherein I pay a girl a salary to perform the functions of being my girlfriend.

I know this is the only way I could ever get close to having a girlfriend. If I had to go about it the normal way, I would never get one.

Iím okay with the ďillusionĒ of love. I can convince myself itís real. I donít really care if sheís faking it. As long as I can pay for it and have it there. Seems it would cut through much of the bullcrap too, like the ďcourtshipĒ and all that stuff that would just be long, tedious, and ultimately would wind up with me never getting anything from a woman.

What do you think of this?

If you could really afford this you wouldn't be asking the question. What kind of money are you thinking this will cost? I am betting a full time girlfriend on a pay to play basis would be a $24,000 a year gig at the cheapest and likely a lot more. In addition to the pay, she would expect all meals, entertainment, trips and gifts to be paid for by you. This would likely cost as much as the salary. Kept women are not a new thing, but they have almost always been the rich man's quickest way to the poor house.

You also would need a good lawyer to write one hell of a contract to make sure you didn't end up with some form of palimony payments when it blew up. And, I guarantee it would blow up sooner or later. Also have that lawyer check the nuances of the sex for hire side of it, since I am betting what you call a paid girlfriend, the prosecutor might call a prostitute and john relationship. Money and sex bartering is not likely to be considered a legit employee/employer relationship in the eyes of the law.

Dude, just go find a girlfriend. There is a lonely girl out there wanting a regular guy. She will be the one that's there for you when the times get tough and the money gets short.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:34 PM
 
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Dude, just go find a girlfriend. There is a lonely girl out there wanting a regular guy. She will be the one that's there for you when the times get tough and the money gets short.
I have determined that to be an impossibility. Iíve tried damn near everything. There appears to be no woman in existence who could like me, and this appears to be true across all time, all space, all planes of existence, and in the most absolute terms. As much as Iíve put myself out there, the results ring pretty clear for one conclusion.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:39 PM
 
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I have determined that to be an impossibility. I’ve tried damn near everything. There appears to be no woman in existence who could like me, and this appears to be true across all time, all space, all planes of existence, and in the most absolute terms. As much as I’ve put myself out there, the results ring pretty clear for one conclusion.
Every pot has a lid. I wonder if the issue is your attitude towards the situation. How old are you? Unless you're in old age and got no interest from the opposite sex whatsoever, how can you determine it to be an impossibility?
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I'm not so sure the OP doesn't have the right idea.

We were sitting with seven single people at dinner the other night. The men were talking about OLD and about what some women expected from them. One said, "She asked me for money up front." Another said, "She wanted me to buy her an airline ticket."

Clearly there are women looking to sell something. Let's be charitable and assume it's not sex. The OP is looking to buy. There are such things as personal services contracts to keep it all on the up-and-up.

Besides, I thought it was pretty well-known that men who already have a GF are more attractive to other women than those who don't.
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