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Not sure what women view as "good", I was on the market for a month and my new girl friend snatched me up. I had barely any attention before I found my girl friend. I am an engineer in the 6 figure range, a pilot with my own plane, love to cook etc but im about a 5 in appearance.
How economics and game theory explain the shortage of available, appealing men.
This was an interesting article to me - and I'm a guy. I was 23 when I married my wife, who was 27.
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That article about "settling" was interesting, too.... even though it had many parts that were very sad.....
REPLY: All those 'good men' will be experiencing divorce at over a 50% rate.
And half stay together. 50% divorce. But half stay together. Why the presumption they'll divorce?
I've posted it before, but 50% of the people who marry don't get divorced. It's a misquoted statistic and a 40-year-old statistic at that. It's actually closer to 30%.
The problem is they get that statistic by figure out how many people are married in a given year and how many people divorce in a given year. But some of the people that divorce weren't married that year.
So take for example a town where 1000 couples are married. 100 couples get married that year and 50 couples divorce. Half the town didn't get divorced, 50 couples did. And it wasn't 50 couples that got married that year necessarily... it could have been 10 couples that married 5 years ago, 20 couples that married 7 years ago, and the rest that got married 10-20 years ago.
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A false conclusion in the 1970s that half of all first marriages ended in divorce was based on the simple but completely wrong analysis of the marriage and divorce rates per 1,000 people in the United States. A similar abuse of statistical analysis led to the conclusion that 60 percent of all second marriages ended in divorce.
These errors have had a profound impact on attitudes about marriage in our society and it is a terrible injustice that there wasn’t more of an effort to get accurate data (essentially only obtainable by following a significant number of couples over time and measuring the outcomes) or that newer, more accurate and optimistic data isn’t being heavily reported in the media.
It is now clear that the divorce rate in first marriages probably peaked at about 40 percent for first marriages around 1980 and has been declining since to about 30 percent in the early 2000s. This is a dramatic difference. Rather than viewing marriage as a 50-50 shot in the dark it can be viewed as having a 70 percent likelihood of succeeding. But even to use that kind of generalization, i.e., one simple statistic for all marriages, grossly distorts what is actually going on.
Back to the spirit of the thread... there are good men out there. I would even dare say I think the majority of single men out there are "good men." The problem is the jerks and crazies tend to be a little "louder" and more noticed. Don't let the jerks and crazies make you think the whole bunch is rotten.
For what it's worth, sometimes you have to talk to that nice guy who is unassuming and not obnoxious because he's sitting there trying to figure out in his head what to say to you to get your interest but still be polite. Give him a smile and a hello and make things easier for the nice guys. Sometimes they are hard to spot, but they are there .
Back to the spirit of the thread... there are good men out there. I would even dare say I think the majority of single men out there are "good men." The problem is the jerks and crazies tend to be a little "louder" and more noticed. Don't let the jerks and crazies make you think the whole bunch is rotten.
For what it's worth, sometimes you have to talk to that nice guy who is unassuming and not obnoxious because he's sitting there trying to figure out in his head what to say to you to get your interest but still be polite. Give him a smile and a hello and make things easier for the nice guys. Sometimes they are hard to spot, but they are there .
I agree. I don't think there really is a shortage of good men. The jerks are just overshadow them. Plus I think miscommunication happens a lot.
And half stay together. 50% divorce. But half stay together. Why the presumption they'll divorce?
And out of the 50% that stay married, 50% shouldn't be. I get some grief from my married friends that assume I should be married by now. What's interesting is the same people that say that seem to have terrible relationships. I would not switch positions with a single married couple I know.
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I agree. I don't think there really is a shortage of good men. The jerks are just overshadow them. Plus I think miscommunication happens a lot.
And for every man that is a Jerk there is a Prima Donna or Bat Crazy woman.
I find that the woman who think that all the good men are taken are the ones who have really high unrealistic standards and are making excuses for them.
I think that arrogant treatment of women is a "badboy" sign that attracts a lot of young women, who later get dissapointed wondering why they didn't get a "good man" when they started out choosing a "bad boy".
also what mat said;
A lot of women grossly overestimate their own attraction value, or try to play "hard to get" way beyond the point any man would like to pursue them.
Good men arent taken. They are in your friend zone
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