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Old 07-01-2008, 10:45 PM
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No reason to blast you. Whether we like it or not, it is true. I'm even pretty sure a study can be found to prove your every point. I posted once a very long and boring one. Most probably didn't look at it for this reason, but it was actually answering every question ever asked here who prefers what and why.
Can you post a link to that study? Thanks.
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Old 07-01-2008, 10:49 PM
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My grandmother used to say that the reason women live longer than men is God gave them a few years to themselves for having to put up with men all the other years. She thought widowhood was her reward and she kicked up her heels.
Compare the jobs average men work to the jobs average women work.

Enough said.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:17 PM
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Just because it's an "emotional need" doesn't make it any better than our physical needs. They are both selfish. Your estrogen driven behavior is no more saintly than our testosterone driven behavior.

And neither is an excuse. A woman can overcome her emotions just as men can overcome their physical desires.
The difference is, though, that a woman's emotional desires are caused by being neglected by her husband and feeling unloved while a man's physical desires are just THERE... In the first case, the partner has control over the situation; in the second - she doesn't... she just happens to be married to a cheater... I'm not saying some men are not married to the same type, but usually a woman is not inclined to cheat if she is happy in her marriage.
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:20 PM
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Can you post a link to that study? Thanks.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/relat...eferences.html
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:39 PM
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a woman's emotional desires are caused by being neglected by her husband
I disagree
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:40 PM
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I disagree
Care to give a reason?
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Old 07-01-2008, 11:46 PM
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I disagree
Do you think she just got them out of the blue? She was paid attention to, listened to, her husband was attentive, kind, making nice gestures, etc.... and yet she needed emotional intimacy with another man?

It's not much different that the argument that more women file for divorce. That's true, but it doesn't matter who filed... it matters how the situation got to where it is...
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:00 AM
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One could just as easily say that men won't cheat if their physical needs are met. Sooo as long as you put out so many times a week, maintain a nice figure and dress sexy there should be no problems right?

not a very compationate or realistic point of view is it?

Just the same it's not very compassionate or realistic to expect a man to magically read your mind and meet all your emotional needs before even YOU know you have them. It takes good communication to keep a woman emotionally content, and that's a two way street. From what I've seen many "emotionally neglected" women did theiir own part in getting to that point.

Basicly what you are saying, and clarify if I'm wrong here, is that when a man cheats he's a pig and it's all his fault where when a woman cheats the man shoulda seen it coming, because it's all his fault.

If that's the way you think maybe you should date women. You might find that meeting their emotional needs isn't as easy as you think, and you might find it's hard to get your emotional needs met because theirs get in the way. At the very least it would give you some perspective.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:06 AM
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Do you think she just got them out of the blue? She was paid attention to, listened to, her husband was attentive, kind, making nice gestures, etc.... and yet she needed emotional intimacy with another man?
what of the woman who leaves a stable and supportive man for mr. "fantasy lover" they meet two weeks prior, then 6 months down the road inevitably mr. fantasy drops them off on the side of the road? because it's all in their head, a fantasy that's all about them them them and it's sooo much sweeter than reality and it's called NARCISM. When a woman get's emotional she loses all perspective, EVERYONE around her can see it (even other women) but she can't because it's all... about... her...
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:12 AM
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One could just as easily say that men won't cheat if their physical needs are met. Sooo as long as you put out so many times a week, maintain a nice figure and dress sexy there should be no problems right?

not a very compationate or realistic point of view is it?
Well, I'm not in a man's head, but I believe men's cheating is more about variety and ego satisfaction than lack of sex at home. Might not be true in some cases, though.

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From what I've seen many "emotionally neglected" women did theiir own part in getting to that point.
True. Most marital messes take two to be created.

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Basicly what you are saying, and clarify if I'm wrong here, is that when a man cheats he's a pig and it's all his fault where when a woman cheats the man shoulda seen it coming, because it's all his fault.
I'm really not an expert on cheating. I've neither done it nor had it done to me to the best of my knowledge. I'm not that passionate about the subject... just thinking out loud...

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If that's the way you think maybe you should date women. You might find that meeting their emotional needs isn't as easy as you think, and you might find it's hard to get your emotional needs met because theirs get in the way. At the very least it would give you some perspective.
Aaahh, no, thanks! I'm far from saying we're easy to get along with. I know I'm not.
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