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Old 08-16-2008, 12:11 PM
 
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I've heard women make sarcastic comments about men regarding how these men wax lyrical about the desired women virtually all men want to date, because that's just a way of saying "the women men went want to bed."

I think women who say this are on to something.

Lately I've met a few women who were extremely dateable.... fun, pretty, outgoing, attractive (very much so). But after getting to know them better, they turn out to be .... a bit vacuous. Not much substance.

When I was much younger. men and women remarked that the less good-looking women worked harder at being nicer, at having something to actually present, because they were weaker in the looks department and to compensate they had to have something else.

And then, my married friends (whose wives are not bad looking) tell me, since I'm single, "Sprawling man, if I were you oh hell yeah I'd wanna bang any hot chick I got to date me. But for the future? If a girl is that easy, after you bang her you can't respect her anymore. Is this the kind of woman you want raising your kids?"

I am not blind - i know women date and get intimate. I have no qualms with their freedom to do so. But I have to say these friends of mine do strike a chord with such advice.

So men, when you date as opposed to seeking out potential wives, do you make a distinction?
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Old 08-16-2008, 12:39 PM
 
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Huh?
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:24 PM
 
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I've heard women make sarcastic comments about men regarding how these men wax lyrical about the desired women virtually all men want to date, because that's just a way of saying "the women men went want to bed."

I think women who say this are on to something.

Lately I've met a few women who were extremely dateable.... fun, pretty, outgoing, attractive (very much so). But after getting to know them better, they turn out to be .... a bit vacuous. Not much substance.

When I was much younger. men and women remarked that the less good-looking women worked harder at being nicer, at having something to actually present, because they were weaker in the looks department and to compensate they had to have something else.

And then, my married friends (whose wives are not bad looking) tell me, since I'm single, "Sprawling man, if I were you oh hell yeah I'd wanna bang any hot chick I got to date me. But for the future? If a girl is that easy, after you bang her you can't respect her anymore. Is this the kind of woman you want raising your kids?"

I am not blind - i know women date and get intimate. I have no qualms with their freedom to do so. But I have to say these friends of mine do strike a chord with such advice.

So men, when you date as opposed to seeking out potential wives, do you make a distinction?
I'm sorry, but I'm willing to bet that more than one of these wives did her share of banging on the first date. They became judgmental after they had kids because, after all, moms don't have sex, you know! Women can be strange that way. Unfortunately, they have now planted that seed in your head. It's kind of hard to "unring" the bell.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:30 PM
 
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As a married man, I pretty much agree with your friends. I'd be wary of marrying a woman who was too easy -- I wouldn't be totally closed to the idea of marrying a woman who slept with me on the first date, but that would be a big, big check against her.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:49 PM
 
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Totally agree, don't marry anyone who will drop on the first date or even in the first month. 3rd base is fine, but if you can round 3rd and head on into home then get out........after you finish the game of course.
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Old 08-16-2008, 01:58 PM
 
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I wouldnt want any "man" with that thought process anywhere near any daughter or son of mine.

People are not meant to be used for play toys and tossed away.
That is so messed up.

Get some real values not notch points for waiting.

A comment like that and that you are friends with that...if I heard that crap...you would be strait off the list no question.

That guy sounds like a total trashy pig. If he treats everything like that it really shows me that he lacks any type of listening, thinking skills and should of died in a cave somewhere many many years ago.

Heres the BEST advice ever:
If they will do it to you. They will do it to someone else.

I wouldnt trust that dude as far as I could spit.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:09 PM
 
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I wouldn't be totally closed to the idea of marrying a woman who slept with me on the first date, but that would be a big, big check against her.

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Totally agree, don't marry anyone who will drop on the first date or even in the first month. if you can round 3rd and head on into home then get out........after you finish the game of course.
i absolutely abhor double standards
so it's OK for a man to screw on the first date (or the first month or whatever) but not a woman?

to me it's not about the sex, what I look for in a man or husband or date or partner or lover, is someone who DOES NOT DO DOUBLE STANDARDS

so if a guy has different rules for him than for me, i'm outta there, he's got LOSER written all over him
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:18 PM
 
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I wouldnt want any "man" with that thought process anywhere near any daughter or son of mine.

People are not meant to be used for play toys and tossed away.
That is so messed up.

Get some real values not notch points for waiting.

A comment like that and that you are friends with that...if I heard that crap...you would be strait off the list no question.

That guy sounds like a total trashy pig. If he treats everything like that it really shows me that he lacks any type of listening, thinking skills and should of died in a cave somewhere many many years ago.

Heres the BEST advice ever:
If they will do it to you. They will do it to someone else.

I wouldnt trust that dude as far as I could spit.
And now we are back to square one, that men are pigs and it is their fault that women sleep w/them on the first date.

And now women have "lists". I guess if I knew some woman w/a "list" I'd have to call her a "pecker pitt".

1/2 mad 1/2 not. You walked into that w/your list though, ya gotta admit that. You may be mad at me Pitt, but I see it all as just opinions.

Hope you can laugh w/me Pitt, or curse me......I'm fine w/it.
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:26 PM
 
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i absolutely abhor double standards
so it's OK for a man to screw on the first date (or the first month or whatever) but not a woman?

to me it's not about the sex, what I look for in a man or husband or date or partner or lover, is someone who DOES NOT DO DOUBLE STANDARDS

so if a guy has different rules for him than for me, i'm outta there, he's got LOSER written all over him
Dim, I never said anything about a woman pick'n a man by how many notches he has. I'm give'n advise to a man about women. If you want to turn it around and bash me or call me a loser, I'm fine w/that. But if your try'n to get me in the sack, I'm sorry but I'm married. That little comment should REALLY get your panties in a wad!
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Old 08-16-2008, 02:30 PM
 
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i absolutely abhor double standards
so it's OK for a man to screw on the first date (or the first month or whatever) but not a woman?
I have no double standards DimSum. I'm not saying it's wrong for a woman to sleep around, sleep on the first date, etc. and whatever -- do what you want girlfriends. I have girl friends, in fact, (friends who are girls -- I'm married) who do exactly that. They're awesome, pals. Would I marry one of them? Um, no -- probably not. Here's the thing though, I have enough friends of the opposite sex to know that girls who really like a guy often pretend to be a lot less loose than they actually are when they're with a guy they really like. So, guys, if you just want sex, act like an a**, a sexy, mysterious one who promises some good old fashioned R rated fun and you'll be sleeping with girls you barely know left and right. Be nice -- like, hmmm... might make a good hsuband and/or father nice -- and you'll wait for sex for awhile. It's all about what you want, I suppose. Personally, when I got married, a woman who was capable of sexual self control and discipline was pretty high on my list of must-haves. I don't think I'm a jerk for wanting this. I think it's a pretty reasonable standard actually, if you're looking for a longterm monogamous marriage.
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