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09-25-2008, 08:04 PM
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"RIP, Kimura Jiroemon"
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Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by TKramar
You misunderstand. The man should NOT be required to pay at all, unless he's already married to the woman. SHE knew what could happen, and she's the one taking the risk, let HER pay.
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Gotcha.
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09-25-2008, 08:41 PM
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Location: "The Sunshine State"
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Originally Posted by hollygolightly
I have done that, and we're not married.  It's not necessary, IMO, to be married in order to be 100% devoted and committed to each other. But that's just me, everyone has their different opinions on the matter, for different reasons. To each, his/her own!
I just know that, for me, for us, we don't need a wedding to be what we already are: partners in every sense.
Who knows, maybe one day we'll get married, but I don't feel that we have to in order to be validated as a couple. |
I agree, I see no need to marry unless you want kids. Been there done that. I have one beautiful son from my first marriage and I am happily single right now! Some women and men cannot be alone. I like the feeling of coming and going as I please and doing what I want. I have always been very independant since I was young.
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09-25-2008, 09:31 PM
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Location: Up above the world so high!
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Originally Posted by TKramar
You misunderstand. The man should NOT be required to pay at all, unless he's already married to the woman. SHE knew what could happen, and she's the one taking the risk, let HER pay.
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So what you REALLY are advocating is robbing the child of the food and other necessities he needs, just to teach the mother a lesson. Great...
As much as you apparently don't want to believe it - it takes TWO to tango and TWO to create a life. Those TWO are then responsible for and to that life. Guess this is just a concept only a real man would understand 
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09-25-2008, 11:55 PM
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Location: syracuse ny
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Originally Posted by Saberai
You're a LOT different from the OP.
'Cause you're a playa.   |
fans
don't be hatin just cause I can do what you wish you could
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09-26-2008, 12:53 AM
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Location: New York
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I don't see much of a point to marriage. I am not against it, just saying. There are very few who should actually get married.
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09-26-2008, 01:58 AM
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I would only get married if I was seriously well off, then I'd feel secure. Truth is I don't see any point to it. Trust would be an issue.
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09-26-2008, 04:19 AM
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Location: Whoville....
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Originally Posted by TKramar
You misunderstand. The man should NOT be required to pay at all, unless he's already married to the woman. SHE knew what could happen, and she's the one taking the risk, let HER pay.
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So men are not responsible for children they sire?
Sorry but HE knew what could happen too so let HIM pay. The same logic you use applies to HIM as well.
When men have sex, they know the woman can get pregnant and that she may not agree with him on whether or not to keep the baby. That's the risk HE takes. He can't tell her what to do with her body and if that results in him having a child to support, well he knew that was the risk going in (pun intended )
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09-26-2008, 04:44 AM
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Location: McMinnville Oregon
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To me marriage isn't a piece of paper. Marriage is a commitment between your spouse, you and God, that you will be with that person until death do you part. Marriage is like a table. A table cannot stand on two legs alone.. but with three.. it can stand forever. Marriage is a Holy Union, something to be cherished, it is more than a paper, it's a bond with you, your spouse and Jesus.
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09-26-2008, 07:36 AM
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"RIP, Kimura Jiroemon"
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Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by lovesMountains
So what you REALLY are advocating is robbing the child of the food and other necessities he needs, just to teach the mother a lesson. Great...
As much as you apparently don't want to believe it - it takes TWO to tango and TWO to create a life. Those TWO are then responsible for and to that life. Guess this is just a concept only a real man would understand |
All that is true, but if you believe that it takes two to tango and two to create a life, then you also need to believe that it takes two to decide on how that child will be raised or, even though I do not believe in abortion, whether the pregnancy will be carried to term.
I do believe a man should support any child that is determined to be his, but that in case of paternity fraud, that he should not be liable. This is why early paternity testing is so important.
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09-26-2008, 07:37 AM
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Status:
"RIP, Kimura Jiroemon"
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Location: Center of the universe
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Originally Posted by Blondie621
I agree, I see no need to marry unless you want kids. Been there done that.
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Reluctantly, I agree with this........
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