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I make a conscious effort to be sensitive and concerned about people. You clearly do not value that. You keep defending how everybody manipulates everybody, and that is normal activity. NO, it is wrong. I do NOT manipulate anybody to like me or do my bidding. I would feel guilty if I did that. I make an effort to not manipulate anybody for my own gain unless I'm being bullied or manipulated first, because that is like somebody picking a fight with me, I need to protect myself from manipulative nutty people, and sometimes I have to give a long winded abrasive lecture that will hopefully be remembered.
I have a conscience. Do you have one?
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Well you obviously did feel some sort of attraction to that person if you asked them out in the first place - unless it was a joke - and so by saying what you quoted would be lying to them which goes back to being manipulative.
If you think about it, we play with other people's emotions on a daily basis. Getting someone to like you is playing with their emotions. Getting someone to do your bidding is playing with their emotions. Even inspiring someone is playing with their emotions. Am I saying that playing with other people's emotions is an ethical thing to do? No, but what I am pointing out is that the majority of people do it at some time or another.
I understand what you are saying about how if you're being respectful in your rejection then it shouldn't matter whether or not the other person is disrespectful. However, we as humans have pride and that oftens gets in the way.
I did not say anybody on this board was greedy or selfish.
in the case I described it is more retaliatory than being greedy and selfish...there are differences.....my main point is don't play with people's feelings and you won't get yours played with in retaliation.
I apologize. I worded what I meant to say wrong. What I was trying to get across was that I noticed how you would instantly say that if a person did such and such action then that meant they were selfish or conceited. The reason I have a problem with this is because we all do and feel things that aren't exactly right from time to time but then again that's why we're human.
Yep, none of us are perfect. I've said really mean things in retaliation before; however, as an adult I make a conscious effort to NOT be selfish, greedy, or manipulative in my regular activities with people. More people should be like me. I want to see more sensitivity and concern!
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Originally Posted by ElizabethC
I apologize. I worded what I meant to say wrong. What I was trying to get across was that I noticed how you would instantly say that if a person did such and such action then that meant they were selfish or conceited. The reason I have a problem with this is because we all do and feel things that aren't exactly right from time to time but then again that's why we're human.
I make a conscious effort to be sensitive and concerned about people. You clearly do not value that. You keep defending how everybody manipulates everybody, and that is normal activity. NO, it is wrong. I do NOT manipulate anybody to like me or do my bidding. I would feel guilty if I did that. I make an effort to not manipulate anybody for my own gain unless I'm being bullied or manipulated first, because that is like somebody picking a fight with me.
I have a conscience. Do you have one?
Hmm, now that you've mentioned it I haven't seen my conscience anywhere lately... maybe I left it at the Manipulators Unite conference I attended a recent time ago?
In all seriousness though, what I was trying to get across with the whole "we all manipulate" idea is that we sometimes subconsciously act a certain way to get what we want. Ex: When you meet somebody new that you like, you try to portray yourself in the best light possible because you want that person to feel the same way back. I'm talking about friendships here. Of course I'm not talking about bad manipulating and actually, I don't even think we can call what I am talking about manipulating since it really isn't. It just slightly shares the same premise.
I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words - and please, no witty comment are neccessary about that line. It's often difficult to get your point out across the internet because things are so easily skewed when all you see are words and the occasional smiley face.
Yep, none of us are perfect. I've said really mean things in retaliation before; however, as an adult I make a conscious effort to NOT be selfish, greedy, or manipulative in my regular activities with people. More people should be like me. I want to see more sensitivity and concern!
I will agree with you on this! Society as a whole can be a little too cold at times.
This may be a stupid question,but I'm a guy,so what do you expect?
Ok,so I was reading an article about dating,and one of the statements from women,on the subject,was this:
"Guys,if you ask us out and we say,"no",don't just dont just shrug, say,"okay",and walk away. We want you to be a little disappointed."
Is this true?
If you're not intrested in dating us,why would you be hoping for disappointment? To show that we care?
If we didn't care,we wouldn't have asked to begin with.
I believe this to be a 100% true! It gives chicks an extra boost to have guys feel disappointed, both from a man-hating sense of satisfaction and to boost her small self-confidence.
I like how you said "man-hating sense" and "small self confidence".
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I believe this to be a 100% true! It gives chicks an extra boost to have guys feel disappointed, both from a man-hating sense of satisfaction and to boost her small self-confidence.
I like how you said "man-hating sense" and "small self confidence".
Thanks.
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