Would women date a unemployed guy? (single, friend, casual, seeking)

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

Haha, I doubt a girl would care with me -- I don't have to be employed the rest of my life if I don't want. I'm self-employed anyway, which is often lumped into unemployed It all depends on your situation. I work because I enjoy what I do, I want to make more money, and what else would you do besides work? I mean it's great to accomplish things and work hard, I really like it. I usually push myself very hard, 60+ hour weeks. But I do so because I have goals and ambitions, not for the money. I don't need that.

I guess that doesn't count then,because it's all about the money honey!

[JeepGirl118]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

Exactly. For example a string of firings for no explainable reason...

I would suggest that it is time to be your own boss then. Most self-employed individuals have made the absolute worst employees in the past. Change your course. Make a plan, man.

[JonathanLB]

Haha, money is a tool, really. I am glad I have the money I need to pursue my dreams and live comfortably. It's not the ultimate goal of life, it's like saying the ultimate goal of building a house is a saw. That isn't even logical. A saw is a tool to building a house. Money is a tool to building a good life. Nothing more, nothing less. A miserable job that pays you well, to me, that's a pretty sad life. I'd rather take a low-paying job if it was really fun and fulfilling. But fortunately I can have my cake and eat it too.

[JonathanLB]

Originally Posted by JeepGirl118

I would suggest that it is time to be your own boss then. Most self-employed individuals have made the absolute worst employees in the past. Change your course. Make a plan, man.

haha, yeah I am not sure if I'd make a good employee. I've never worked for anyone, and with a little luck I hope never to have worked for anyone in my life. I started selling golf balls on a golf course when I was 7 or 8, I found the balls, cleaned them, and made up different deals depending on condition. I did that for years, made some good money for being a kid, sold to my dad's employees, friends of the family, etc. when I couldn't sell on the course. Then I ran a Web business when I was 18 and sold advertising in newsletters, on my network of Websites, etc. Just at the end of the dot-com collapse, basically, but the market was still good for a while for advertising. Now I run a film production company. I wrote two books as well. So whatever I've done, it's always been solo or I've been in control, I'm not much of an employee. I think I would probably make a good employee for a while, but with my lust for power and control I think long-term I'd make a bad employee

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by JeepGirl118

I would suggest that it is time to be your own boss then. Most self-employed individuals have made the absolute worst employees in the past. Change your course. Make a plan, man.

See post #49 here...that doesn't always fly in terms of the relationships,but funny you should mention it b/c that's what many of my career aptitude tests say.

However when you mention guys that have a plan B...I've even planned beyond that b/c many of my plans don't seem to work apparently

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

haha, yeah I am not sure if I'd make a good employee. I've never worked for anyone, and with a little luck I hope never to have worked for anyone in my life. I started selling golf balls on a golf course when I was 7 or 8, I found the balls, cleaned them, and made up different deals depending on condition. I did that for years, made some good money for being a kid, sold to my dad's employees, friends of the family, etc. when I couldn't sell on the course. Then I ran a Web business when I was 18 and sold advertising in newsletters, on my network of Websites, etc. Just at the end of the dot-com collapse, basically, but the market was still good for a while for advertising. Now I run a film production company. I wrote two books as well. So whatever I've done, it's always been solo or I've been in control, I'm not much of an employee. I think I would probably make a good employee for a while, but with my lust for power and control I think long-term I'd make a bad employee

See that's the way I should be,but I think after failure of many of my ventures I just kinda gave up for awhile thinking maybe this isn't what fate's got for me or something.

[JonathanLB]

Well, I don't think you can be too discouraged by failures. My Web business ultimately failed, it went from $3,000 per month (while I was in college) to a few hundred bucks in just a few months, despite me working twice as hard, because the market just got really bad really fast. And my first production company was a failure, we broke it up now and I started my own where I'm the sole owner. But I refuse to quit trying because the game isn't over until I'm dead. Life is hard and full of failures, but I think a key is learning from those failures and mistakes and trying again. I mean, when I first started Tae-Kwon-Do, I sucked at it obviously. I couldn't do anything right. How many times did I have to fail to do a proper roundhouse kick before I could execute a good one? Maybe 10,000 times? I succeeded eventually because I refused to become discouraged by my defeats. Every defeat brings you one step closer to victory.

[JeepGirl118]

Whatever brief employment I held in younger years, was because I was a poster child for everything not to do. Much of the reason I was such a poster child was due to the fact that I was resentful going into work knowing that I was making someone else rich. I was raised in a home of self employed. I was married to self employed. For 15 years now, I have been self employed with the exception of a transition period of 2 months before moving to FL (sold off companies back there) - and started another great venture as soon as I moved to FL. In my 2 month transition period, to blow off time (was bored out of my skull), I went and got a couple of PT jobs for fun (yes, literally for fun) instead of sitting around. I got fired from both within 2 weeks, one of the bosses did not like my "regular business coaching." Hehe. Some people are not built to be employees. I am one of them.

[JeepGirl118]

Originally Posted by StuckPA

See that's the way I should be,but I think after failure of many of my ventures I just kinda gave up for awhile thinking maybe this isn't what fate's got for me or something.

You just have not found your niche yet. . .

Never give up. You automatically fail when you do.

[StuckPA]

Originally Posted by JonathanLB

Well, I don't think you can be too discouraged by failures. My Web business ultimately failed, it went from $3,000 per month (while I was in college) to a few hundred bucks in just a few months, despite me working twice as hard, because the market just got really bad really fast. And my first production company was a failure, we broke it up now and I started my own where I'm the sole owner. But I refuse to quit trying because the game isn't over until I'm dead. Life is hard and full of failures, but I think a key is learning from those failures and mistakes and trying again. I mean, when I first started Tae-Kwon-Do, I sucked at it obviously. I couldn't do anything right. How many times did I have to fail to do a proper roundhouse kick before I could execute a good one? Maybe 10,000 times? I succeeded eventually because I refused to become discouraged by my defeats. Every defeat brings you one step closer to victory.

With things like Tae-Kwon-Do you know that it takes practice,with business ventures you've got no idea if it will be successful and unless you have disposable income to keep gambling on those things it's hard to keep jumping back in.
I agree though on learning from 'mistakes',although with business ventures it may not be mistakes but just a bad gamble...I think I learned so much from mistakes though that I might have been afraid to try those things again