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Ok, let me say I am just giving my perspective. That's all. What I say is not written in stone nor is anyone eles perspective.
It's just MY perspective. It does not make it right or worng. Different eyes see different things. No harm intended.
Thanks for your reply.
Ron
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Originally Posted by hnsq
You are making quite a few assumptions here. When religion is involved, not having sex isn't a 'crutch' at all. Since my religion is the most important thing in my life, that means there are things much more important than physical pleasures. For many people this is a moral decision, not simply a lack of maturity. I could actually argue the opposite case: if your morals lead you to lean against celibacy, a lack of maturity and self control can easily bring you to give up your morals for what is more fun.
And before anyone attacks this viewpoint, I am not one to judge. This is how I feel and how I want to live. I don't care what other people do, you don't judge my decisions and I won't judge yours.
You are making quite a few assumptions here. When religion is involved, not having sex isn't a 'crutch' at all. Since my religion is the most important thing in my life, that means there are things much more important than physical pleasures. For many people this is a moral decision, not simply a lack of maturity. I could actually argue the opposite case: if your morals lead you to lean against celibacy, a lack of maturity and self control can easily bring you to give up your morals for what is more fun.
And before anyone attacks this viewpoint, I am not one to judge. This is how I feel and how I want to live. I don't care what other people do, you don't judge my decisions and I won't judge yours.
Thank you! And I completely agree with the bolded, not to sound crass but I'm way more interested in mentally stimulating someone than physically..but alas, alot of men just don't get it.
This is the same problem with the 'Training' thread.
How is it that each partner is to go about becoming trained?
I person focusing on celibacy, fine, I can respect that. If that is a facet of your personality.
However you don't just change your personality.
There is no guarantee that suddenly after marriage that person will now become a sexually active person.
Maybe for a few months, because that is what they are supposed to be doing, they can put on the act. But sooner or later, the truth will come out. Sex will be a topic which they can simply turn away from and not desire.
So they may well never become 'good' at sex. They will likely never grow to desire sex. It will always be an issue where you are fumbling around with each other, because you only do 'it' annually.
If you met the woman that was everything you ever wanted and more, but she was celibate (just waiting til marriage), would that be a deal breaker for you? And please be honest
If she was everything I ever wanted and more, I wouldn't have to wait. What I want is a very affectionate woman who enjoys an intimate relationship, and who is monogamous. Of course that is not all I want, but in keeping with the limited criteria of your question, that is my answer.
Having dated guys who were simply AWFUL in bed, yes it would be a dealbreaker for me (and yes, I tried to educate them on what I wanted - they didn't care about me, only about themselves in that arena)
IMO best response on this post - too true! It can wreck a marriage, whether it be the wife or the husband. It's very idealistic and naive to think that this area isn't important in a marriage.
That's what you insinuated and I used myself as an example because I am celibate. Anyway, why do you find it odd? Because it's not done by many?
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