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Old 01-04-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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Be off with yee to thy barn where thou shall reside for eternity.
Art thou jealous of thy awesomeness
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:02 PM
 
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I believe it to be a personal choice.

Yes it could be a genetic thing but just because it is a genetic trait doesn't mean you necessarily have to accept it. You could live in denial. I could say that I have six fingers but in reality, I only have five because I have not yet accepted the fact. The same applies for the genetic argument of homosexuality. I could be born genetically gay but I could live in denial and say that I am straight and live a straight life. Notice that for most homosexuals during a period of their life they lived, "in the closet." There could even be a pre-in the closet type mentality. Someone who is gay but still having droughts about actually going with the same sex etc.

And yes it has happened where people have lived a straight life - got married, had kids etc and then realized that they were actually more happy being homosexual.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Beautiful New England
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Yes it could be a genetic thing but just because it is a genetic trait doesn't mean you necessarily have to accept it. You could live in denial. ...And yes it has happened where people have lived a straight life - got married, had kids etc and then realized that they were actually more happy being homosexual.
*OF COURSE* one could live in denial...many have for generations, many still do. But such living is a recipe for a life of immense unhappiness, deep frustration, and serious numerous psycho-social problems.

The human sexual urge is a deeply embedded, profound biological need, ranking with hunger, thirst, and the necessity to breathe. Very few people are able to effectively repress it in a healthy way.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:17 PM
 
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How do you know that information? Are you a closet case?

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*OF COURSE* one could live in denial...many have for generations, many still do. But such living is a recipe for a life of immense unhappiness, deep frustration, and serious numerous psycho-social problems.

The human sexual urge is a deeply embedded, profound biological need, ranking with hunger, thirst, and the necessity to breathe. Very few people are able to effectively repress it in a healthy way.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Beautiful New England
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How do you know that information? Are you a closet case?
No, I'm straight (though very supportive of gay rights, obviously).

I am simply a smart, educated, and informed person. I know quite a bit about human sexuality. And the more you know the more you realize that bias against gays and lesbians is simple bigotry and prejudice. The way to dispel such bias is to confront ignorance and lies with truth.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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Oh ya what evidence do you have to back up your claims?

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No, I'm straight (though very supportive of gay rights, obviously).

I am simply a smart, educated, and informed person. I know quite a bit about human sexuality. And the more you know the more you realize that bias against gays and lesbians is simple bigotry and prejudice. The way to dispel such bias is to confront ignorance and lies with truth.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:55 PM
 
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*OF COURSE* one could live in denial...many have for generations, many still do. But such living is a recipe for a life of immense unhappiness, deep frustration, and serious numerous psycho-social problems.

The human sexual urge is a deeply embedded, profound biological need, ranking with hunger, thirst, and the necessity to breathe. Very few people are able to effectively repress it in a healthy way.
Indeed, and why should they repress their natural desires when they are hurting no one. Oh, because they are offending some religious zealot who has decided that god somehow made a mistake (like a billion times over)? Oh sorry, tough sh*t dude mind your business and live your own life and let gay people live theirs. And not only is it tragic for the gay person, what of their spouse that is stuck in a loveless relationship.
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Southern Illinois
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No--it is not healthy to repress your desires--not healthy for you, and not healthy for the family that you will ultimately abandon when you realize that you can no longer keep up the facade. Personally I would rather have everything out in the open so we all know what we're dealing with--but then that thought just takes me right back to the thought that I wouldn't have my 2 beautiful children that I love so much. I think my daughter is extremely lucky to not have to hide her orientation and she and her ladyfriend are very much "out" at school, and the kids are pretty accepting of this.

Another thought and maybe some gay people can reply to this one: one of the reasons my husband didn't want to be gay is b/c he didn't want to live the gay lifestyle--he is turned off by the thought of cruising gay bars and going to parties and such. I told him that I imagine that it's the same as heteros--you can either surf the singles bars, or you can try to meet people in other venues, like classes and sports activities and such. You may not have as much exposure, but you're probably more likely to meet someone nice and someone that you can have a lasting relationship with.
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:26 PM
 
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What in the world are you talking about when you say your husband didn't want to be gay because he didn't want to cruise gay bars and gay parties for mates??? what??

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No--it is not healthy to repress your desires--not healthy for you, and not healthy for the family that you will ultimately abandon when you realize that you can no longer keep up the facade. Personally I would rather have everything out in the open so we all know what we're dealing with--but then that thought just takes me right back to the thought that I wouldn't have my 2 beautiful children that I love so much. I think my daughter is extremely lucky to not have to hide her orientation and she and her ladyfriend are very much "out" at school, and the kids are pretty accepting of this.

Another thought and maybe some gay people can reply to this one: one of the reasons my husband didn't want to be gay is b/c he didn't want to live the gay lifestyle--he is turned off by the thought of cruising gay bars and going to parties and such. I told him that I imagine that it's the same as heteros--you can either surf the singles bars, or you can try to meet people in other venues, like classes and sports activities and such. You may not have as much exposure, but you're probably more likely to meet someone nice and someone that you can have a lasting relationship with.
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Old 01-04-2009, 09:57 PM
 
Location: TwilightZone
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Who the f*#&$ is Jennifer Connelly?
She was kinda good lookin in The Rocketeer movie...(not that I saw it)
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