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Old 08-05-2009, 11:42 PM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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From a males perspective I have no problem with it. The change from now to even say 5 years ago is huge. I know we have had threads on this topic before. But what I want to hear is particularly from anyone who has a major issue with it and more Importantly WHY?
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:54 PM
 
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My question is WHERE are you seeing this? It's happened to me a few times, but I don't see it being all that common. Maybe I'm in the wrong city. I certainly don't have a problem with a woman making the first move.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:00 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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I've always noticed it to seem about dead even. Maybe I haven't payed that close attention, but I never noticed one over the other.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:08 AM
 
Location: In the sticks, SC
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Maybe we need to move to New Zealand........
I don't see it but if that was the case I'd have no problem with that at all.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:20 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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To put it another way, the subtle hints women give in my experience are getting more common. More flirting and subtle hints.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:22 AM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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I don't have a problem with making SUBTLE first moves (ex: igniting a conversation, making eye contact, light flirting) but I will not ask the guy for his number or ask him out on a date. Why is this, you ask? For starters, I want a guy who's not afraid to ask for my number or ask me out. Second of all, I can't stand a guy who just sits back and waits for the girl to make all the moves - I generally don't like the personality types behind this. I understand that some guys are shy and some are terrified of rejection but generally speaking, girls prefer the guy to make the first move. If the chick turns you down, well then it's quiet obvious she wasn't planning on making the first move on you.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:26 AM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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To put it another way, the subtle hints women give in my experience are getting more common. More flirting and subtle hints.

I know a few guys who are so dense. One had a really fast and nice bike (the motor kind... not bicycle) and I told him I wanted a ride on it. He said okay, when the weather became warmer. Time passed, he never mentioned it, and I forgot all about it. One day we're talking and he asks me why I haven't taken a ride on his bike yet. I tell him that he didn't ask me. He says he didn't want to because he thought I'd look at him like he was weird and say no. I'm completely baffled by this (HELLO! I'm the one who asked for a ride in the first place!) and tell him I would have said yes.

Sigh. . .
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:30 AM
 
Location: southern california
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they are running out of divorce material.
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:34 AM
 
Location: New Zealand and Australia
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I know a few guys who are so dense. One had a really fast and nice bike (the motor kind... not bicycle) and I told him I wanted a ride on it. He said okay, when the weather became warmer. Time passed, he never mentioned it, and I forgot all about it. One day we're talking and he asks me why I haven't taken a ride on his bike yet. I tell him that he didn't ask me. He says he didn't want to because he thought I'd look at him like he was weird and say no. I'm completely baffled by this (HELLO! I'm the one who asked for a ride in the first place!) and tell him I would have said yes.

Sigh. . .

haha. I'm afraid to say thats the way alot of us are programmed, generally get better with age and experience though , then again some never learn
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Old 08-06-2009, 12:41 AM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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haha. I'm afraid to say thats the way alot of us are programmed, generally get better with age and experience though , then again some never learn

I think this guy needed me to wear a shirt that said YES!!!!!!! right across my chest.

Too often guys will fall into one of two categories: a.) too aggressive = overbearing and potentially creepy or b.) too passive
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