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Old 01-20-2009, 10:14 PM
 
Location: southern california
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meh! Overachievers!

It's all perspective me thinks.

Maybe that person you think is a slacker isn't really? And as for the overachiever, well that's great if you genuinely are striving for and achieving your goals, but do it too frequently and at the expense of the important things, like stopping to smell the roses, and you get no brownie points with me. I just find it irritating.

Ok, come get me!
here you go.
one moment.

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Old 01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
 
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here you go.
one moment.
Don't hurt me huck!

I do come from the land of the "tall poppy" after all!

aaw thank you!!
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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I'm for balance. Both extremes tend to annoy me.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:30 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Don't hurt me huck!

I do come from the land of the "tall poppy" after all!

aaw thank you!!
the land of tall poppy means kiwis or new zealand. they tend to be critical am i getting it?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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I enjoy people who value contributing something to society, and have enough idealism in them to want to improve things for other people, and actually walk the walk. People who are blase about such things bore me. Yes, I know this is a bit more specialized than just "slackers v. overachievers," but that's what it got me thinking about.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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What makes you think that over achievers do not have spiritual balance? Unless your categorizing them as the ego-driven ultra competitive types. Nothing wrong with setting high goals and trying to achieve them. The country would be in better shape if more tried this approach rather than waiting for someone to give an opportunity.
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Was that being asked of me (sorry, I haven't read the whole thread, just responded)?
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Old 01-20-2009, 11:51 PM
 
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the land of tall poppy means kiwis or new zealand. they tend to be critical am i getting it?
Australia I'm not sure about the kiwis and the poppy to be honest. Something to investigate! Thanks!

Yeah, I'm not sure if it's critical of achievement or overachievement, I think probably the latter. Seemed to be the way of it when I was a kid anyway and a bit of an overachiever.

I don't notice it so much now, but then I'm not an overachiever anymore. There's that sense of "don't get too big for your boots" here.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:14 AM
 
Location: #
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I've been thinking about various types of people and how our society interprets their actions. Especially western cultures.

You have the person that is over achieving working multiple jobs or maybe taking a bunch of classes, maybe its volunteer work. You get the idea.

Then you could have a slacker type of person, does not work much, lazes around the house, doesn't "contribute" much to society. Again you get the idea.

I'm probably going to get slammed by people who aren't going to understand what I mean, but here goes.

I think both of these people could be just as screwed up and not dealing with the world around them. I mean obviously the slacker is screwed up, but how can you say that about the over achiever.

Both are denying life, and both aren't spiritually aware of themselves and their relationship to the "Source", "One life" "God", whatever label you want to apply.

The problem is in our culture the over achiever isn't recognized as a problem. Before everyone jumps my butt about this, I'm saying in general, all situations could be different.

Am I way off base here or do you feel me?
A little bit. I know someone who is a bigtime slacker. He has a college degree and has had decent jobs. He doesn't work very hard anymore because he is an atheist and feels there is really no point to life anyways, so why stress yourself out. I've often wondered how many bummy types feel that way. Some people have no spirit, believe in no God and see no repercussions as such a person would not believe in an afterlight anyways. And I have met plenty of very hard working atheists. I guess they see society in more of a collective sense.
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Old 01-21-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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What makes you think that over achievers do not have spiritual balance? Unless your categorizing them as the ego-driven ultra competitive types. Nothing wrong with setting high goals and trying to achieve them. The country would be in better shape if more tried this approach rather than waiting for someone to give an opportunity.
I guess I should have said "compulsive" over achiever types. Yes there can be over achievers that are "spiritual" too. Actually there is a school of thought in Eastern philosophies that your best performances come from a place of connectedness with "Life".
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