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Old 02-20-2009, 09:19 PM
 
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It is quite shocking all the women that have had their brains fried by Cosmo and Glamour magazine.

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It sure is to me too. I suspect this is why foreign women have such an easy time picking off American men. Those women don't come with big lists, commonsense or not. They know they can use their wiles to get a lot of what they want and mold the man somewhat, instead of expecting him to match their Cosmo list right out of the box.
I can't completely agree with you. While using one's "wiles" to get more of what you want, is possible, most men aren't going to change in major ways after marriage. Women who think they will, are deluded and are heading for problems.

The main advantage that foreign women have is lower expectations. The women of my Mother's generation had this going for them too, they all stayed married and were really happy about how well their husband did.

Their daughters are almost all divorced!
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:17 PM
 
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I can't completely agree with you. While using one's "wiles" to get more of what you want, is possible, most men aren't going to change in major ways after marriage. Women who think they will, are deluded and are heading for problems.
That's true. I'm thinking more in subtle terms like the woman helping the man focus his ambition. She can't make him ambitious though.

My ex-wife prodded me into buying a house. I would've rented indefinitely, just by not giving house-buying much thought. She was more focused on our future than I was, which turned out to be a good thing.

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The main advantage that foreign women have is lower expectations. The women of my Mother's generation had this going for them too, they all stayed married and were really happy about how well their husband did.
I agree!
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:19 PM
 
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Nope. You either have decent manners and know what things you don't do in public, or you don't. He had not a clue. No justification for that sort of thing, ever, in public. Pretty much the same deal as putting one finger to your nostril and blowing. Would you do that in public? God I hope not, for your sake.
I do that when hiking, but no, never in mixed company.
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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It might be helpful to remind her that not ever date is a life relationship. It's a date - so lighten up and have some fun. It's ok to know what you want in a man. But no one (not ever her) is perfect. It might be good to ask her to explain what the man might have thought of her!
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