Too many single women in their 20's with kids (vs, perfect, El Paso)

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by NoExcuses

I read some at the front, and some at the back, and I'm wondering why (as someone pointed out at the front) the frustrated guys who are looking for young women without kids don't keep their pants zipped since a young woman cannot get pregnant on her own.

It's like an oxymoron to say I want a single young woman without kids to have sex with and take the chance she may get pregnant. It's pretty hypocritical to look for young women without kids and expect to sooner or later have sex with her.

IT'S CALLED RESPONSIBILITY GUYS.

Not really. Most of it I chalk up to the transition from "high school" to "real life".

Age 20...
Bob- poor student at ABC college getting engineering degree, average looks, nice guy.
Tom - Works a bit, lives with parents, plays in a band. Good looking, player.

Let's not kid ourselves, a lot of 20yo gals are going to date Tom as he has a decent car and plenty of spending money since all his expenses are covered by his parents. He gets 3-4 girls pregnant, doesn't take care of his kids...parties and still gets women left and right. (I know of several guys like this.)

As gals mature, SOME will start seeing the value in Bob...although many still want the bad boy Tom.

As has been repeatedly noted in dating threads around here....guys chase and women choose. So, if "bob" wants a girl that hasn't picked up a kid (and baggage) from her bad choice of dating Tom, that's his perogative.

What women value in guys changes as they mature and in some cases learn some hard lessons. It's thier choice, so they need to take personal responsibility along with the "baby daddy". Sorry, I've just seen so many scumbag guys land women that wouldn't look twice at me at age 23 and somehow it's the normal guys fault that they now have a kid with the deadbeat and that makes them less attractive in the dating market?

I don't think so.

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by Nutz76

If women want to straighten things out it's entirely up to them. Contrary to feminist dogma it all starts at closing your legs for the bad boys that already have a string of broken hearts and baby mommas in their past.

Spot on.

I know of two guys that are "friends of friends" in their 20's. Both quite good looking and compelete dogs.

The one guy probably has had sex with 20-30 different women EASILY over the past year...he works in retail and hits on cougars and young gals alike. I don't doubt this at all because he's slept with at least 2 gals I know in that "circle of friends" and one gal is his "fck buddy" because he's "super good looking" and decent in bed but get this....he doesn't come by very often for her (and she is good looking) because she isn't freaky enough for him and he has enough gals to get layed with. (This same girl rejects a number of decent guys for not being good looking enough.)

Another guy is a firefighter, really good looking....the guy has MANY "fck buddies". He can literally shoot out a couple texts and then go over to some girls apartment with a 6-pack for a few drinks and sex. No date, no dinner....just sex on demand. lol. And if they don't like it.....well next!

There is indeed a small group of guys out there getting TONS of sex from lots of different women. Welcome to American society.

[AJsMOM83]

[quote=Mathguy;12664894] The one guy probably has had sex with 20-30 different women EASILY over the past year...he works in retail and hits on cougars and young gals alike. I don't doubt this at all because he's slept with at least 2 gals I know in that "circle of friends" and one gal is his "fck buddy" because he's "super good looking" and decent in bed but get this....he doesn't come by very often for her (and she is good looking) because she isn't freaky enough for him and he has enough gals to get layed with. (This same girl rejects a number of decent guys for not being good looking enough.)
quote]

Do you know my ex? This sounds just like him!

BTW, I'm a single woman in my 20s with a kid. My ex just wasnt ready to settle down and be a family man. Plain and simple. He cheated my entire pregnancy and yes, I stayed. Yes, I know, that was MY fault. But I was in love...and I thought he would change! Lol, now I know better.
Anywho, when he decided he didnt wanna play daddy anymore, he bolted and left me to be mom 100% of the time and dad 75% of the time. He pays his child support on time (cant knock him for that) but only comes around when he's not busy working or partying. I have since decided that at 26yrs young, I do not want anymore kids (yes, I've taken steps to prevent that from happening). I refuse to put myself in another situation where the possibility of me ending up a single mom to two kiddos is likely.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by AJsMOM83

I have since decided that at 26yrs young, I do not want anymore kids (yes, I've taken steps to prevent that from happening). I refuse to put myself in another situation where the possibility of me ending up a single mom to two kiddos is likely.

On one hand, you're protecting yourself and, perhaps, a future offspring. However, the down-side is that you're still very young at 26 and have a lifetime ahead of you. It's poissible that the perfect man for you -- a real man with integrity -- might come along, fall wildly in love with you and want to marry and have a family with you. What then?

[steelstress]

Then she can live happily ever after with her new husband. Getting married doesn't have to mean popping out a kid.

[solytaire]

Yeah, there are way too many uncommitted women in their 20's with kids. They appear slutty to me, but oh well, all I can say is, have a nice life.

I remember I met one who had a crumbsnatcher who was never married to the father. I was 21, she was 23...It was a no go. I met another one when I was younger who was like 20 and she had a kid, she was never married to the father, but from what she said, he was still a pretty good dad....that was a no-go too...she was a great girl though, really cool, and pretty...I can see how she got knocked up at an early age...

I probably wont find a chick older than 20 without kids...Oh well, more money for me!

[Mathguy]

Originally Posted by steelstress

Then she can live happily ever after with her new husband. Getting married doesn't have to mean popping out a kid.

A desire or inability to have more kids at that age slashes the dating pool down for both men and women. She will just have fewer dating options if she is incapable of having another kid as there will be some guys out there without a kid that still want one. In 20 years is she is dating it won't matter.

[betamanlet]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Spot on.

I know of two guys that are "friends of friends" in their 20's. Both quite good looking and compelete dogs.

The one guy probably has had sex with 20-30 different women EASILY over the past year...he works in retail and hits on cougars and young gals alike. I don't doubt this at all because he's slept with at least 2 gals I know in that "circle of friends" and one gal is his "fck buddy" because he's "super good looking" and decent in bed but get this....he doesn't come by very often for her (and she is good looking) because she isn't freaky enough for him and he has enough gals to get layed with. (This same girl rejects a number of decent guys for not being good looking enough.)

Another guy is a firefighter, really good looking....the guy has MANY "fck buddies". He can literally shoot out a couple texts and then go over to some girls apartment with a 6-pack for a few drinks and sex. No date, no dinner....just sex on demand. lol. And if they don't like it.....well next!

There is indeed a small group of guys out there getting TONS of sex from lots of different women. Welcome to American society.

20% of men get 80% of the women, and these women only "Want" nice guys when bad boys are no longer attracted to them. They resent the nice guy for this, and make his life a living hell, making him suffer for her poor choices in life.

[betamanlet]

[quote=AJsMOM83;12671000]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

The one guy probably has had sex with 20-30 different women EASILY over the past year...he works in retail and hits on cougars and young gals alike. I don't doubt this at all because he's slept with at least 2 gals I know in that "circle of friends" and one gal is his "fck buddy" because he's "super good looking" and decent in bed but get this....he doesn't come by very often for her (and she is good looking) because she isn't freaky enough for him and he has enough gals to get layed with. (This same girl rejects a number of decent guys for not being good looking enough.)
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Do you know my ex? This sounds just like him!

BTW, I'm a single woman in my 20s with a kid. My ex just wasnt ready to settle down and be a family man. Plain and simple. He cheated my entire pregnancy and yes, I stayed. Yes, I know, that was MY fault. But I was in love...and I thought he would change! Lol, now I know better.
Anywho, when he decided he didnt wanna play daddy anymore, he bolted and left me to be mom 100% of the time and dad 75% of the time. He pays his child support on time (cant knock him for that) but only comes around when he's not busy working or partying. I have since decided that at 26yrs young, I do not want anymore kids (yes, I've taken steps to prevent that from happening). I refuse to put myself in another situation where the possibility of me ending up a single mom to two kiddos is likely.

How about you just not date bad boys? Or would the boredom be too much for you from the lack of drama?

[betamanlet]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

On one hand, you're protecting yourself and, perhaps, a future offspring. However, the down-side is that you're still very young at 26 and have a lifetime ahead of you. It's poissible that the perfect man for you -- a real man with integrity -- might come along, fall wildly in love with you and want to marry and have a family with you. What then?

She wants the bad boys too much that having a second child might prevent her from getting one. If that's what makes her happy, then more power to her.