Porn is to men what romance novels/movies are to women? (crying, surprise)

[cuinlalaland]

Originally Posted by Ivorytickler

I don't dress up to get attention.

But you do dress down to get attention?

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by Ivorytickler

No, not at all. If there is something I can do to be taken more seriously as a PERSON and seen less as a sexual object, I'm going to do it. My preference is to be taken seriously as a person and valued as one. I don't dress up to get attention.

Again, over your head.

[PassTheChocolate]

Originally Posted by cuinlalaland

But you do dress down to get attention?

She dresses down so she can be respected and not objectified. She doesn't get that not being objectified doesn't mean she is respected.

[Ivorytickler]

Originally Posted by cuinlalaland

But you do dress down to get attention?

No, I dress to not attract attention. I don't dress down to the point I'd stand out. Well, most of the time. Sometimes, it's just fun to wath the looks on people's faces. Of course my kids groan.

[NMyTree]

Originally Posted by Ivorytickler

and I repeat....talking about porn and sexuality in general is different than talking about my beliefs on sex. Porn is not part of my life with good reason.

You can stop digging your hole deeper now.

Okay, let's see if you can follow the train of thought and recall what you said yesterday.

My initial comments and criticism towards you were on the subject matter of you ....1) Claiming in the past and yesterday, that it's perfectly okay to deny your husband sex for long extended periods of time and then claiming that it's his problem to deal with and work out...... and.... 2) Your attempts to draw a comparison and similarity between a husband who wants sex and who's being denied sex and....... "Rape ......" Bodily Violation"........3) Your comments on Objectification.

Guess what? That's a sexuality based topic.....subject matter and discussion.

Furthermore, you also commented on the Objectification concept and theme.

Guess what? That's also a sexuality-based subject matter. And you discussed it within those terms.

You can continue to squrim, spin and weakly attempt to deny and redirect the converstion and topic. But several people addressed your comments from yesterday (and today). Everyone knows what you said and what the subject matter was.

It's all still there in your original posts and in the posts by others that quoted you. Your rather cold-hearted, self-absorbed and selfish attitude spoke volumes about you. All the spin-jobs and back-peddling in the world won't change that.

There's nothing I have said or can say, which will be more effective at proving my analysis from last night/and today; than the words you typed and continue to type.

Maybe you should try fining a little integrity and accountability. Rather than covering your ears and chanting...." nah..nah...nah...nah...I can't hear you" or playing dumb.

The hole being dug is at your own feet. The fact you fail to acknowledge your very own comments and own up to them; is laughable. You're just proving my comments to be true.

[NMyTree]

Originally Posted by cuinlalaland

But you do dress down to get attention?

Well, apparently if she doesn't dress down men get so worked up and distracted, that, they drool, stutter and can only think of only one thing in her company

So she's really doing us men all a HUGE service by dressing down and keeping our thoughts on how we respect her so much as a person.

Nevermind that character, integrity, honesty, fairness, compassion and common courtsey will get any male or female a lot more respect; than dressing down.

But don't bother pointing that out to her. Character and intergity are foreign concepts.

I guess it never occured to her that men may have been staring and focused on her breasts, because that's all she may have to offer. If in real life she's anything like her posts suggest; she's void of all of those other traits.

[nitokenshi]

wtf does porn or romance novels have to do with objectifying people? Isn't it just fantasy. I'm not getting it

You guys are arguing with a women who doesn't believe it's ok to masturbate, hell it isn't ok to have sex, it isn't ok to fantasize because that would be cheating, watching porn means you want someone else and yada yada she is a nut job. I don't think anybody can get through to her she must have had a sh*tty childhood. Maybe daddy was a porn addict or something.

[NMyTree]

Originally Posted by nitokenshi

wtf does porn or romance novels have to do with objectifying people? Isn't it just fantasy. I'm not getting it

You guys are arguing with a women who doesn't believe it's ok to masturbate, hell it isn't ok to have sex, it isn't ok to fantasize because that would be cheating, watching porn means you want someone else and yada yada she is a nut job. I don't think anybody can get through to her she must have had a sh*tty childhood. Maybe daddy was a porn addict or something.

Good point. Many good points.

[Ivorytickler]

Originally Posted by PassTheChocolate

Again, over your head.

No, I think it went over yours

[nebulous1]

Originally Posted by cuinlalaland

Yes or no and why.

I hate romantic comedies, never read a romance novel in my life. I am a woman. It looks like boring dribble to me, and those movies look like vehicles for certain stars to make money.