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Old 05-23-2009, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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I still say there is a distinct difference between the two. You dont see men starting threads here like "Wife caught reading romance novels, what to do? Shall I divorce him?".
Well, if the wife turns out to be a him, you just might

Reading a book does seem more benign than looking at actual pictures of naked people getting it on. Maybe men should try reading about sex instead of watching it. Might be more acceptable if they're the same. But you're right, they're not the same.

I find it funny that women read books while men look at pictures.
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Old 05-23-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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I never said physical attraction doesn't play a role in dating and people getting together. I'm referring to what men have said here about undressing women in their minds not dating and courtship rituals.

FTR, I don't wear make up and my preferred mode of dress is baggy t-shirts and blue jeans. Has been since I first realize men couldn't talk to me and look at my face because their eyes were on my bustline. The only thing tight I wear is a minimizer so my bust isn't so prominent. Well, that's why I started wearing them. These days it's so the girls don't visit my navel

What I do for my husband is, entirely, another story. He sees me as more than an object.
You're doing a complete 180 and About Face from the comments you made yesterday.

My comments to you were made regarding certain subject matters. I never addressed or criticized you for ....." thinking sex is something special between two people does not mean I'm a prude or have sexual issues. It just means I think it's private. "

In fact I never saw any comments from you regarding that subject, nor did I see comments from anyone else on that.

You're conjuring up some phoney injustice (in the form of subject matter) to place yourself in the role of the victim.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Partisanship Is An Intellectual/Emotional Handicap
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You're the one who made accusations about my sexuality, which really has not been discussed here. So you're just making it up as you go along. I consider it private and not open for discussion. That, however, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with me or my views. And my personal life isn't up for debate. The subject is porn and that has NOTHING to do with my sex life.

There is a difference between commenting on porn in general and discussing my, personal, views on sex. I can have an opinoin on porn without disclosing what I do behind closed doors.
This thread was an extension of the " husband caught looking at porn " thread, so I naturally carried over from that thread.

Again, my comments to you were made regarding certain subject matters. I never addressed or criticized you for ....." thinking sex is something special between two people does not mean I'm a prude or have sexual issues. It just means I think it's private. "

I criticized you and commented on the things you said in this thread and the other thread. Which were based in sexuality. You did make comments on sexuality. You may want to go back and read your own posts as a refresher.

Seems to me you're suffering from either a short term memory problem or a selective memory disposition.

You're not a victim. So stop trying to play one.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:24 AM
 
Location: los angeles, ca
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Romance novels are for folks who can't watch porn anytime they want because they have kids looking over their backs. lol
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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This thread was an extension of the " husband caught looking at porn " thread, so I naturally carried over from that thread.

Again, my comments to you were made regarding certain subject matters. I never addressed or criticized you for ....." thinking sex is something special between two people does not mean I'm a prude or have sexual issues. It just means I think it's private. "

I criticized you and commented on the things you said in this thread and the other thread. Which were based in sexuality. You did make comments on sexuality. You may want to go back and read your own posts as a refresher.

Seems to me you're suffering from either a short term memory problem or a selective memory disposition.

You're not a victim. So stop trying to play one.
and I repeat....talking about porn and sexuality in general is different than talking about my beliefs on sex. Porn is not part of my life with good reason.

You can stop digging your hole deeper now.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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You're doing a complete 180 and About Face from the comments you made yesterday.

My comments to you were made regarding certain subject matters. I never addressed or criticized you for ....." thinking sex is something special between two people does not mean I'm a prude or have sexual issues. It just means I think it's private. "

In fact I never saw any comments from you regarding that subject, nor did I see comments from anyone else on that.

You're conjuring up some phoney injustice (in the form of subject matter) to place yourself in the role of the victim.
Exactly what comments are 180? I still think porn is disgusting. However, that says nothing about my attitude about sex. It speaks only to my attitude about porn.

And I have no idea a couple of posters keep trying to call me out here. I'm not the one calling out my posts, that would be you. If you don't like my calling out those who post about me personally, quit posting about me personally. I'm not the subject here.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:51 AM
 
Location: In my skin
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FTR, I don't wear make up and my preferred mode of dress is baggy t-shirts and blue jeans. Has been since I first realize men couldn't talk to me and look at my face because their eyes were on my bustline. The only thing tight I wear is a minimizer so my bust isn't so prominent. Well, that's why I started wearing them.
That'll be the day when I stop taking pride in how I look to accomodate the notion that no one will respect me otherwise. You're so concerned with being so above everyone that you can't manage to cover how incredibly flawed you actually are; more so than most.

You command respect not only by how you dress, but how you conduct and express yourself. That t-shirt and jeans is no guarantee that anyone is going to respect you. If you can't present yourself in a socially acceptable manner, whether it is how you dress, what you communicate or how you treat people, you'll just be a frumpy head on a stick with boobs. So it's really just a matter of choosing how poorly you prefer to be viewed.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Whoville....
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That'll be the day when I stop taking pride in how I look to accomodate the notion that no one will respect me otherwise. You're so concerned with being so above everyone that you can't manage to cover how incredibly flawed you actually are; more so than most.

You command respect not only by how you dress, but how you conduct and express yourself. That t-shirt and jeans is no guarantee that anyone is going to respect you. If you can't present yourself in a socially acceptable manner, whether it is how you dress, what you communicate or how you treat people, you'll just be a frumpy head on a stick with boobs. So it's really just a matter of choosing how poorly you prefer to be viewed.
I'd rather be respected and taken seriously than oogled. Suite yourself.

Of course I haven't had that problem in years,
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:02 PM
 
Location: In my skin
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I'd rather be respected and taken seriously than oogled. Suite yourself.

Of course I haven't had that problem in years,
LOL....completely over your head, but nothing new.
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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LOL....completely over your head, but nothing new.
No, not at all. If there is something I can do to be taken more seriously as a PERSON and seen less as a sexual object, I'm going to do it. My preference is to be taken seriously as a person and valued as one. I don't dress up to get attention.
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