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View Poll Results: Please place an answer that best applies. Then elaborate on the forum.
Yes I am straight but I had same sex/gay attractions in the past. 16 22.86%
Yes I am straight but I have never had same sex attraction. 46 65.71%
I am Bisexual but lead a straight life. 8 11.43%
Voters: 70. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-29-2009, 01:37 PM
 
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Very good Post buddy, and your variation of curiousity falls more on the lower scale, and thats fine and [normal]....the problem I see is the lack of freedom and expression to whatever you want to do, not just sexual experimentation....I want to venture to say its impossible to say you never thought of a penis thats not yours, that would mean you are brain dead...Now on that note, you may have natural stimuli that inhibit you from thinking any further about it but thats also normal for any heterosexual man, you are much more Heter-motivated than you could ever be Homo-motivated...

You seem like a smart person, do you understand my argument? Humans think of all kinds of stuff throughout life, our natural ability to have thoughts and take them to "extreme" and oscillate upon the "norm", thats how we survive and progress. So I doubt many men have just never had thoughts that involved the same sex, it just doesn't make sense to an Intellectual. And thats being real...
Hi firstella,

Well I would say again if the theory is correct I would be strongly heterosexual. I can't recall thinking about penises much. I think they are rather odd looking and pachydermic. As usual, I like to try and address biological underpinnings and then add the cultural affectations that influence those drives. I assume male sexual attraction does contain some flexibility.

Humans certainly have an interesting morphology that at some point needed to be selected. Our slow plodding walking ability works best with narrow hips. However this runs into our brain cases which require large hips, and collapsing infant heads, for women to bear us. Women walk a tight rope of conforming to the species and giving birth to us and seem to require more physical health which we see as beauty. Its interesting that some primates that do not have the hip, brain case dilemma see the more usual male attractiveness as in the mandrill and apparently the silver back gorilla.




So at some point there needs to be flexibility in what is considered attractive. I appear to be the result of the status quo. Though, as I say, homosexuality will always at some point have a stigma since the pathogenic pathway of sex will always exist in my opinion. Sex is a risky business to the individual for the sake of the species. Given the domination of the angiosperms, the flexibility of sexual reproduction seems to be here to stay but once that purpose is no longer served, its nothing but a liability since homosexuality is a hopeless reproductive strategy. Male on male sex will likely be one of the more quickly developing cohorts and incubators for out breaks. The stigma is probably nothing more than the cultural overlay of a biologically defensive measure.

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Old 10-29-2009, 01:44 PM
 
Location: SoCal - Sherman Oaks & Woodland Hills
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I voted that I am straight male and NEVER had any same sex attraction. I think that when it comes to men, it just depends on how you are "wired". I am wired solely for females.
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Old 10-29-2009, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Center of the universe
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Very good Post buddy, and your variation of curiousity falls more on the lower scale, and thats fine and [normal]....the problem I see is the lack of freedom and expression to whatever you want to do, not just sexual experimentation....I want to venture to say its impossible to say you never thought of a penis thats not yours, that would mean you are brain dead...Now on that note, you may have natural stimuli that inhibit you from thinking any further about it but thats also normal for any heterosexual man, you are much more Heter-motivated than you could ever be Homo-motivated...

You seem like a smart person, do you understand my argument? Humans think of all kinds of stuff throughout life, our natural ability to have thoughts and take them to "extreme" and oscillate upon the "norm", thats how we survive and progress. So I doubt many men have just never had thoughts that involved the same sex, it just doesn't make sense to an Intellectual. And thats being real...

what?
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Old 10-29-2009, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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And Trust Me Kid! I'm not struggling at all with my sexuality..The word "struggling" in context means that I would be conflicted with what I (or society) thinks I should be interested in...That just doesnt apply..The reason I am happy and get everything I want from life is because I'm self-aware...I dont have hangups about what society thinks. Im a rebel WITH a cause and feel free because of it. So don't worry, I have every intention to get my balls licked when or if the time is ever right (nothing I need to be pressed about), does that make me bisexual?? OMG, I have to go tell my mom!!!....(LOL, secretly snickering @ struggling with my sexuality..)

The principle that I'm trying to relay is "doing you", not "doing society"...many of the posts here (not necessarily yours) are motivated by inner fear and not reality....Like I said, the results would have been much different if one asked "have you ever been curious to what it would be like to eat mayonaisse if you never have??"...mayonaisse does not have a social stigma attached to it either, and everybody eats it...that would be a weird a$s question but you get my drift....lol
You may not be struggling but you are certainly on the fence. I don't have any hang ups either, but I also don't have any deeply buried curiosity or desire to be with another man. It seems to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't card that you are playing. If someone claims not be curious they are a liar. The mere fact that I replied to this thread does not make me curious about being with a man. That's just another example of a closet gay man being overly optimistic once again.

I remember this guy I used to work for years ago in a retail shop. He was married, middle aged, and living alone in NYC tending to his business while his wife was somewhere in New England. Anyway, he would frequently try to steer our conversations towards homosexuality. At one point he told me that if I love my father then that means I love another man, which makes me a homosexual by definition. WTF? He talked about how the best BJ he ever got was from a toothless older man and shyt like that. I knew what he was driving at, and his predatory perversions weren't landing with me. So the position of manager that I was promised soon faded away and was given to a new guy who had no prior retail experience (he was a carpenter) and surprise...he was gay. Not a big deal, I was in my late teens and could care less about the job. Even at a young age I knew B.S. when I saw it, and I knew what he was trying to do. But my point is, guys like you are indeed struggling beneath the surface, and in order to justify your closeted urges, you try to convince everyone around you that we all have these urges buried somewhere beneath the surface. Sorry, but not everyone is curious, and not everyone is struggling with their sexuality. Oh wait, that's right you aren't struggling, you are "self-aware". On that note, speak only for yourself.
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Old 10-30-2009, 04:36 AM
 
Location: Wherever I want to be... ;)
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I've asked my husband this question before. He's said, no, never. Not even in the slightest. He's a very, very pro-gay rights & anti-homophobic person that would I know with 100% certainty tell me if he was ever attracted to men. But yeah...he's said the thought of it just doesn't do anything for him. This was interesting to me because I've definitely had some attraction/curiosity towards women, although I consider myself straight.
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:16 PM
 
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You may not be struggling but you are certainly on the fence. I don't have any hang ups either, but I also don't have any deeply buried curiosity or desire to be with another man. It seems to be a damned if you do, damned if you don't card that you are playing. If someone claims not be curious they are a liar. The mere fact that I replied to this thread does not make me curious about being with a man. That's just another example of a closet gay man being overly optimistic once again.

I remember this guy I used to work for years ago in a retail shop. He was married, middle aged, and living alone in NYC tending to his business while his wife was somewhere in New England. Anyway, he would frequently try to steer our conversations towards homosexuality. At one point he told me that if I love my father then that means I love another man, which makes me a homosexual by definition. WTF? He talked about how the best BJ he ever got was from a toothless older man and shyt like that. I knew what he was driving at, and his predatory perversions weren't landing with me. So the position of manager that I was promised soon faded away and was given to a new guy who had no prior retail experience (he was a carpenter) and surprise...he was gay. Not a big deal, I was in my late teens and could care less about the job. Even at a young age I knew B.S. when I saw it, and I knew what he was trying to do. But my point is, guys like you are indeed struggling beneath the surface, and in order to justify your closeted urges, you try to convince everyone around you that we all have these urges buried somewhere beneath the surface. Sorry, but not everyone is curious, and not everyone is struggling with their sexuality. Oh wait, that's right you aren't struggling, you are "self-aware". On that note, speak only for yourself.
hahahahahahahaha! CoolHand that was hilarious! LOL...Dude was definitely trying to get into your pants! LOL....But although I've been a little too forward with my thoughts here, what I do stand by is this: It would be wrong to believe that every man is in fact, curious....I can't argue that! Some men do actually fall on the bottom of the scale and have never even thought about it much. I do, however, have a hard time believing that this rating is more common because sexuality, like any other aspect of life can vary day by day. You may not feel the same way you felt 4 years ago about sex. For example, many men would agree that there are certain situations that make you feel more masculine or more feminine; most of us try hard to avoid the latter. I mean think about it, how do you know you'll like oral sex until you've actually tried it? You dont grow up a prepubescent boy thinking "Oh getting my nob snobbed is gonna feel so good"...What happens is you get an erection from something you look at or think about and take it from there. The curiousity of acts is what drives the actual bi-sexual behavior....not necessarily attraction. Let me explain....

So I take it that you aren't that big on researching what sexually curious men mental processes are. Well if you ever listen to em, they'll say "I have no interest in the actual guy I just fanatasize about the "snitzle" while Im watching hetero porn, I dont know where it came from"...This is a common theme among sexually curious men with no prior interest or curiosity in engaging in such behavior. So to these men, out of the blue, came this desire to "experiment". These men, just like you, have become much more self aware in a context that they realize how their feelings an attractions can vary as a function of time and actual experience. This goes much deeper than "GAY" or "straight". What I want to get across (and this is not in reference to you) is that many are forced to withdrawal from these fluctuations of sexual interest because of what society deems appropriate, and condition themselves to accept only a certain behavior from themselves. And then you have this "outspurt" of 50+ year old married men who have a need to tap into this mode of experimentation, not only sexually, but everything else they feel curious of.

I apologize if I gave the impression that its impossible not to want "snitzle"(LOL). Thats insane, fem-holes feel great. But trust, just because its something you never thought about today doesn't mean its something you wont think of tommorow. You have gay men going straight and straight men going gay all the like. Its because healthy lives will "predictably" vary and thoughts will change as times goes by. I stick by my thoughts that its important not to put a limit on all that life has to offer and accept thoughts and feelings as they come, without dismissing them because of what is considered "correct" in society. I also stick by the assumption the above results would be much different with women then they would be with men because of the detached stigma to women experimenting...do you think Im wrong?
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Old 11-06-2009, 12:38 PM
 
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And one last thing, I also think you kinda force yourself to consider this curiosity when you respond to such threads. You have to consciously ask yourself whether or not you've actually had these thoughts before. It doesn't mean that responding makes you secretly curious, it means you have considered whether or not you ARE curious about "same-sex" and wasn't really interested and regurgitated the answer of NO. You dont have a choice to NOT consider it if you know that you're true answer is NO....Simple Neuroscience
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Coral Springs, Fl
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Never confused, never curious...

Just for the record gay men do not bother me, my Doctor is gay (male) and he's given me the (cough) physical and it's never bothered me, the only man to ever touch down there besides the Rabbi that circumsized me, neither piqued my interest..lol
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Coral Springs, Fl
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No, I have never had a desire.

Last week, I walked into the mens locker room at golds gym and saw a old man bending over with his butt in the air.

I almost threw up.......right there
You think that's bad? I was sitting on the bench tying my shoes in the locker room when I looked up the 80 year old man in front of me was bent over trying to figure out his locker combo, disgusting. This is the same guy who blowdrys his tewig and berries with his leg up on the sink counter.
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:11 PM
 
Location: South FL
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Is it safe to say that women are more bi-curious then men? What do you guys think?
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