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Old 06-15-2009, 03:14 AM
 
Location: Delaware...Oi
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Originally Posted by 4eversearching View Post
I'm tall and I kind of like it when I'm taller than a guy. I don't think the OP's height has anything to do with it, it's the being heavy, with no hair and goatee that's the problem. I also think tall women have a much harder time finding someone than a short guy.
Not if I see 'er.

 
Old 06-15-2009, 06:18 AM
 
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Look at all these posts and only 1 guy so far gave an honest reply like the OP said. All the rest are trying to flame the OP in some regard or make him 'feel better'. He didn't ask for that, he asked for an honest reply stating evidence that height is not a problem. Did he get any? No, zero, nothing except for insults and religion. Did anyone read the links he posted, probably not; did anyone respond based on the links he posted: no.

So OP, you are on the wrong forum if you want to discuss this, you will not get a good answer here.


Now on to the study, at least the first one:

"for every inch taller a man is than his 'rivals' at speed-dating sessions, the number of women who want to meet him again increases by five per cent." And "a woman ... with a body-mass index (BMI) of more than 25 is selected by 70 percent fewer men" than her competitors.

Wow, that sounds pretty correct to me. Though keep in mind the following: (1) it's a speed dating event (that means participants are lamers); (2) it's a scientific study, so conclusions may be incorrect if a variable is missed.

How about the second article:

For each inch in height, a person earned about $789 more in pay. So a 6-foot person would earn $5,525 more each year than someone who is 5'5."


That's pretty true as well.

There is one big statistic that you may be missing. Nearly all male pornstars are short, and remarkably so. (It's a trick of the camera; since the guy is short, his equipment looks bigger.)

These things hold true on average. The issue is that you may not be average, you may be the outlier. There are various ways in which you can increase your pay to go above the average (like get a more advanced degree). There are various ways in which you can increase the quality of women you date/marry (like talk to more of them until you charm a taller, hotter one).

The other posters here are quite ridiculous in their petty dodges of the subject.

There are other better studies which show that the "ideal mating indicator" is for the man to be 4" taller than the woman, so the woman "looks up" to the man at a slight angle. There are also studies which show that men prefer women with cleavage. The important thing here is that it is a first impression instinct. Without talking to the person, you judge them as better. However the most important fact is this: all women complain that they talk to "tall, hot guys" and are instantly turned off because of "what comes out of their mouth". As soon as the guy says something lame, the women are turned off. So while these tall, hot guys may be getting more first impression success, they are losing the women at the 5 minute mark. This is where you can again beat the averages, perhaps by not gaining points at the first impression, while gaining them as time goes on. Studies don't show this because it is very rare & hard to quantify. Research studies usually attempt to document easily quantified information, because that is what is possible do to, and the researchers want to be paid (the "scientific process" is not so ideal).

Another big factor is clothing style. This can completely overcome the height impression. Yet these studies do not compare "clothing style vs. tall vs. short". If the short OP wears a nice suit or a rockstar outfit, and hangs around some dorky-looking nerdy tall guys, who is going to be more successful, yes obviously, the OP, as long as he also doesn't suffer from the "as soon as he opened his mouth I lost interest" problem that women seem to confront with any guy.

So in conclusion, results are not 1-dimensional, and you can bias results to be above average in 1-dimension, by beating the competition in the other dimensions. Yes, with everything else in the world equal (including personality) the taller man wins, however in the real world everything can be biased.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Originally Posted by ILikeSmartHippies View Post
Look at all these posts and only 1 guy so far gave an honest reply like the OP said. All the rest are trying to flame the OP in some regard or make him 'feel better'. He didn't ask for that, he asked for an honest reply stating evidence that height is not a problem. Did he get any? No, zero, nothing except for insults and religion. Did anyone read the links he posted, probably not; did anyone respond based on the links he posted: no.
Personal experience IS evidence. Or are we going to discount that?
 
Old 06-15-2009, 07:38 AM
 
Location: 95468
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Remember, you only
have to convince one.
Good hunting.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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Originally Posted by Colossus_Antonis View Post
You missed some biggies who really rocked the planet upside down.

It's widely believed that Alexander the Great, yes, the daredevil soldier, greatest militarist genius of all time and allegedly handsome young man was somewhere between 5 5 and 5 7. Since he was kind of medium height, Cleitus and others personally kept a watch on him in the battlefield lest he be injured.

Julius Caesar was 5 8. Octavian (Augustus) was of the same height.

Bonaparte was 5 6, yeah.

Adolf Hitler was 5 9. Churchill was 5 8. Joseph Stalin was 5 7 ish.

Short/Average men have ruled the roost across history.
Those examples only confirm the scary part of their personalities.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 07:44 AM
 
Location: southern california
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true in chasing and catching they dont do well, but in the hiding and surviving they do much better.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 08:18 AM
 
Location: The Hall of Justice
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Originally Posted by Colossus_Antonis View Post
You missed some biggies who really rocked the planet upside down.

It's widely believed that Alexander the Great, yes, the daredevil soldier, greatest militarist genius of all time and allegedly handsome young man was somewhere between 5 5 and 5 7. Since he was kind of medium height, Cleitus and others personally kept a watch on him in the battlefield lest he be injured.

Julius Caesar was 5 8. Octavian (Augustus) was of the same height.

Bonaparte was 5 6, yeah.

Adolf Hitler was 5 9. Churchill was 5 8. Joseph Stalin was 5 7 ish.

Short/Average men have ruled the roost across history.
Humankind is getting taller due to better nutrition and lower rates of disease. Alexander, Caesar--those heights would not have been short so long ago. I suspect Hitler, Churchill and Stalin were at least average, not "short."
 
Old 06-15-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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Basically women want tall men, men want short women. That's just how it is.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Banana Republic, LA
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The only man I ever truly loved was short... 5'3" which is an inch shorter than me. I do prefer a man who is about 5 inches taller than me, I would say that was my "ideal" height for a man.

Two things about him though. He had a magnetic personality. And he dressed extremely well, custom-tailored clothing most of the time. Just something to consider, OP. Don't get hung up on what you can't change, work on what you can.
 
Old 06-15-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Right Here
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Originally Posted by tb4000 View Post
Basically women want tall men, men want short women. That's just how it is.
I agree...unless you look like Heidi Klum, then all bets are off. LOL.

I will be honest though, I want a guy that is taller than me. That's just my preference.
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