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Women's suffrage was a success thanks to courageous women in the 1800's, followed by many women in subsequent eras demanding and succesfully obtaining, for the most part, equal treatment and pay in US.
Gone are the days of barefoot and preagnant, along with the Leave it to Beaver, "June what's for dinner" way of life. Our economy is built on 2 income households, few women have the option NOT to work.
For you single women out there, would you give it all up, the job, the independence and all the trappings if given the chance to marry a strong and succesful, but painfully old fashioned man? He would love and cherish you, be kind, affectionate and attentive to the children. He would also insist on bearing any burdens and making all the important decisions for the family. He would want a wife to be obedient and supportive, You'd be expeced to keep a tidy house and have dinner ready with a smile when he gets home.
Just curious how many women out there want to meet and marry a provider and a "daddy" figure versus a partner, and equal contributor.
NO!! I HATE that my husband out earns me now. I was very proud of the fact I supported our family. Now I'm just a minor contributor. I think my ideal would be we both earned the same.
NotARedneck actually had something interesting to say.
But it seems the ladies here aren't interested in anything
that can't be answered with "I don't need no stinkin' man'
or some other version of that old favorite. Girls, remove
the stick. It's obviously restricting flow to thinking parts.
Any reason why none of you have posted your photo?
OK, I'll go first with the photo, note this is an old photo, I've let myself go a bit since.
Women's suffrage was a success thanks to courageous women in the 1800's, followed by many women in subsequent eras demanding and succesfully obtaining, for the most part, equal treatment and pay in US.
Gone are the days of barefoot and preagnant, along with the Leave it to Beaver, "June what's for dinner" way of life. Our economy is built on 2 income households, few women have the option NOT to work.
For you single women out there, would you give it all up, the job, the independence and all the trappings if given the chance to marry a strong and succesful, but painfully old fashioned man? He would love and cherish you, be kind, affectionate and attentive to the children. He would also insist on bearing any burdens and making all the important decisions for the family. He would want a wife to be obedient and supportive, You'd be expeced to keep a tidy house and have dinner ready with a smile when he gets home.
Just curious how many women out there want to meet and marry a provider and a "daddy" figure versus a partner, and equal contributor.
Why does a man who provides for his family have to be considered a "daddy figure"? Can't a couple jointly decide what their roles will be and still be partners??? It happens every day and is not so uncommon as you think
NotARedneck actually had something interesting to say.
But it seems the ladies here aren't interested in anything
that can't be answered with "I don't need no stinkin' man'
or some other version of that old favorite. Girls, remove
the stick. It's obviously restricting flow to thinking parts.
Any reason why none of you have posted your photo?
You obviously haven't read MY post, or looked at MY profile.
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Originally Posted by ChessieMom
What part of my post stated that??
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Originally Posted by JustJulia
Yeah, I didn't say that either.
Robert has a selective reading problem
Think before you speak/write.
And I second chessieMom - your photo is useless, and it's hypocritical for you to demand others'.
Oh my mom was involved - she was the one who balanced the checkbook; she just didn't worry about things once he said he would take care of it. That was like the main rule in our household "don't say you're going to do something if you can't follow through."
The term "obedient" in my OP seems to have stirred the pot quite a bit. A promise to "love, honor and obey" was the boilerplate wedding vow for decades. Funny how a pledge of life long love and commitment turned into an insult in a relatively short period of time.
I wouldn't confuse the two ideas, obedience and life-time commitment, if you're interested in understanding independent women.
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Good honest response WB. I take great joy in serving or giving unconditionally to those I love as well. Interesting how some take pleasure in "waiting" on a spouse as a loving and appreciated gesture. While other see it as an act of subservience beneath a spouse only fitting for a servant master relationship.
We all serve our spouses in one way or another, and people generally in the day-to-day. You know that's not the issue. Women, for most of human history, have been subservient to men. That's just how it was, and still is in many parts of the world, so the senstivity you see in this thread isn't about naturally loving and wanting to please our spouses. I don't know why it's necessary to state the obvious.
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Originally Posted by Worth the W8
Great reply, yours seems to be the common thread among most opinions. So many equate self worth to career and independent accomplishment, if you do not succeed in these areas you are somehow inferior. This has been the standard held for men forever, it stands to reason that with a womans rise to equality in the workplace the expectations would follow. It is a sad state of affairs when a woman who gets up every day and runs a household like a swiss watch does not receive the respect of an executive. Not dignity and respect denied from others as much as denying themselves due self respect.
Agreed. It is a sad and very old mentality. "Men's work" or anything men do has predominantly been the rubric of what is to be respected. Now that gender roles are beginning to blur, hopefully these types of judgments will become less common. SAHD's and house-husbands are having to contend with similar garbage.
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Originally Posted by cremebrulee
I'll tell you what...I have known many women execs...who shouldn't be in the position's they are in, and are in those positions b/c they are women...now, Mind you, I have worked for some amazing women execs, but very few compared to the amount of women in that career field. I find them insecure, not good leaders, and ready and able to blame everyone else for their mistakes, a lot of them micro manage, it takes them 20 minutes to say simply a yes or a no. I cannot tell you how many women I know, who say, they would never ever work for a woman again....
My boss is a woman and she is difficult. She's the first female I have ever worked for (so take this for what's its worth) and it hasn't been easy. OTOH, I realize this has as much to do with me as her, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by robertjohnson
NotARedneck actually had something interesting to say.
But it seems the ladies here aren't interested in anything
that can't be answered with "I don't need no stinkin' man'
or some other version of that old favorite. Girls, remove
the stick. It's obviously restricting flow to thinking parts.
I was going to reply to one sentence in his post but decided not to bother...something about women becoming educated to land a specific type of man to support or some such thing. Lets just say that the world does not revolve around the penis for many. Go figure.
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Any reason why none of you have posted your photo?
What does this have to do with anything?
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