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Unread 07-26-2009, 07:52 PM
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It's a problem when your judgement of others becomes a method of discrimination or repression. You base your judgement of others based on race, gender, religion or maybe something quirky like they don't like broccoli or something with no other basis for judgement.
That's what seems to be part of the issue the OP brings up. Since people actual do this regularly, as demonstrated in various threads.
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Unread 07-26-2009, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan and Sometimes Orange County CA
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Before you worry about the speck in your friends eye, perhaps you should deal with the log stuck in your eye.



Let him who is perfect cast the first stone.

Do not judge others unless you are prepared to be judged.

Who said those things? . . . . .

I think that pretty well answers the question.
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Unread 07-26-2009, 09:22 PM
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Before you worry about the speck in your friends eye, perhaps you should deal with the log stuck in your eye.



Let him who is perfect cast the first stone.

Do not judge others unless you are prepared to be judged.

Who said those things? . . . . .

I think that pretty well answers the question.
Though very, very few people follow this.
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Unread 07-27-2009, 09:47 AM
 
Location: On our boat!
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If a person is an "activist" in any way, they do indeed "judge" people/what they do! I was in pro rodeo for a number of years and was confronted by "animal activists" numerous times. I'd just walk right on by them and head for the arena! Kept my spurs on and held onto my rope bag the whole time! I have the right to "judge" people just as much as they have the right to "judge" me!
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Unread 07-27-2009, 09:58 AM
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Location: MA
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Why would you look down on vegans? Just because they like to eat tofu?
The other evening I served a table of 3 vegetarians and 6 ominivores. I overheard a discussion amongst the vegetarians if it was alright to eat bread, since it rises because of live yeast, then the yeast is killed off in the baking process. I suppose unleavened could be an option for them, but I didn't get involved in their conversation.
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Unread 07-27-2009, 10:26 AM
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Location: MA
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You base your judgement of others based on race, gender, religion or maybe something quirky like they don't like broccoli or something with no other basis for judgement.
If I invite someone out to lunch, it's usually only someone that shares my same tastes in food. If I'm in the mood for Indian food, I'm not going to ask out someone that dislikes curry. And the same goes for a vegan. I'm an omnivore and I'm not interested in sharing a dining table with someone that might be suffering inner turmoil over what I have on my plate. And the same goes for inviting someone over to my house for a meal. No vegans allowed.

However, we can do other things together, like walk our dogs together or visit a museum.

Many years ago, when I was married, my former sister-in-law was visiting CA and spent a night at my parents' place. They were very pleased to have her visit and my parents spent all afternoon cooking dinner for their guest. Well she arrived and after a tour of the kitchen, she announced that she was on a special diet. They were very disappointed but graciously took her to the local supermarket to shop for what she could eat. I thought her actions very rude. I think that she could have told them, or us (my husband and I) about her new dietary needs so that my parents wouldn't have wasted their efforts in the kitchen. And since her new diet was by choice and a bit frivolous, I think that she could have eaten a small portion of what they made and not compromised her diet. It wasn't for medical reasons either.
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Unread 07-27-2009, 10:56 AM
 
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Everyone is entitled to have an opinion (judgment) about whatever they want, and it's natural to do so. After all, that's what we do when we observe a situation, and then use our brains to process what happened. And many times, we can learn valuable lessons from the mistakes of others.

how?
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Now your family is entitled to think what they want of others. And if you don't like their opinions, just stay away from them. Tune out their voices, change the subject or leave the room.
how?
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Unread 07-27-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Omaha
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The other evening I served a table of 3 vegetarians and 6 ominivores. I overheard a discussion amongst the vegetarians if it was alright to eat bread, since it rises because of live yeast, then the yeast is killed off in the baking process. I suppose unleavened could be an option for them, but I didn't get involved in their conversation.
I think some people should just get over themselves and be thankful they have a meal to eat.

Half the people on this Earth would eat a dog if they could catch one, and we have these Americans worrying about some yeast in their bread...come on?
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Unread 07-27-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Back in the gym...Yo Adrian!
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If I invite someone out to lunch, it's usually only someone that shares my same tastes in food. If I'm in the mood for Indian food, I'm not going to ask out someone that dislikes curry. And the same goes for a vegan. I'm an omnivore and I'm not interested in sharing a dining table with someone that might be suffering inner turmoil over what I have on my plate. And the same goes for inviting someone over to my house for a meal. No vegans allowed.

However, we can do other things together, like walk our dogs together or visit a museum.

Many years ago, when I was married, my former sister-in-law was visiting CA and spent a night at my parents' place. They were very pleased to have her visit and my parents spent all afternoon cooking dinner for their guest. Well she arrived and after a tour of the kitchen, she announced that she was on a special diet. They were very disappointed but graciously took her to the local supermarket to shop for what she could eat. I thought her actions very rude. I think that she could have told them, or us (my husband and I) about her new dietary needs so that my parents wouldn't have wasted their efforts in the kitchen. And since her new diet was by choice and a bit frivolous, I think that she could have eaten a small portion of what they made and not compromised her diet. It wasn't for medical reasons either.
I can understand not inviting somneone out to lunch if they don't like what you eat. I wouldn't invite a friend to eat with me if I am dead set on eating Thai or Seafood, and they don't like it. I do feel that being tolerant of others is important though. From my experience vegens are more intolerant of carnivores and it can get annoying and outright insulting when they start lecturing or getting militant about what others are eating.
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Unread 07-27-2009, 01:14 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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A right? I guess everybody has the right to judge. Why not? Judge all you want. That does not mean your judgement means anything in some cases unless you are judge.

You have a great day.
El Amigo
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