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Old 07-24-2009, 06:50 PM
 
Location: South FL
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Originally Posted by LizCab44 View Post
Lol, yes but at some point the imagining in bed part does come in . Not saying that I look at my mailman that way, but on the first date with a guy I'm really attracted to I'd probably be doing it .

Maybe I'm just a weird gal .
Alright Liz, just admit it, you are one big female PERVERT!!! lol
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:54 PM
 
Location: lala land
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Alright Liz, just admit it, you are one big female PERVERT!!! lol
Who me?? Why I've never been so insulted in all my life! I'll have you know that I am a nice and proper lady.
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Old 07-24-2009, 06:59 PM
 
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I'm a perv to some women, the perfect man to others. But most of the time I'm a perv; I admit that. I know I'm not alone with the guys on this. If you're finding the majority of guys you meet are pervs or the guys hitting on you are pervs, that simply means they don't respect you, period. Of course all they want is sex out of the deal and will say and do anything to make it happen. That's not really a secret.

I'm always standoff-ish of women who readily admit to a string of bad relationships...or even their last one. If these men didn't respect you, why should I? Of course I'm not going to tell you this. I'm going get my free milk before I jump the fence.

Go on dating sites and read some of these profiles. Every other profile consists of:

"I want a man who won't hurt me..."
"Someone make me believe that not all men are bad..."
"I seem to have the knack for bad relationships..."
"NO users or abusers!..."

Here's some insite; you just lost ALL respect by ALL men in as little as your first sentence. If you aren't respected by others, what makes you think I'm going to be any different? I wouldn't even bring the past up but if you as a woman felt the need to do so, I would write something along the lines of:

"My last BF was a good, honest, hardworking man, but we finally realized we were just two different people."

I don't even care how bad he was. You say that, that signals to me, you're worthy of something, worthy or a good man, worthy of my respect and admiration.

This is where men and women differ a bit. Women don't respect other women unless they give them a reason to. Men don't respect women unless they give them a reason to, HOWEVER, men usually DO respect other men unless there is a reason NOT to.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: lala land
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This is where men and women differ a bit. Women don't respect other women unless they give them a reason to. Men don't respect women unless they give them a reason to, HOWEVER, men usually DO respect other men unless there is a reason NOT to.
Oh Hans, I am detecting a double standard at play here. How many posts have I read from men on here complaining about how women can't be trusted, women are gold diggers, women just use them yada yada. And how many complain about how some women from their past disrespected them, stood them up, or cheated on them. Come on. The pendulum swings both ways my friend.

And for the record I never write any of the above things that you just mentioned. True I am looking for someone that is right for me, but I'm not clinging to every guy that passes my way.

And I have been burned before. I won't deny that. If that somehow makes me less respectable in your eyes than that is your loss, because in truth you do not know me. And you have no idea what type of person I am apart from what I chose to say on here.

If a guy told me he was afraid to trust people because he had been hurt before - I would repect that. I don't think I'm under any obligation to be open and trusting and I wouldn't expect that from anyone else.

I'm guarded with my feelings. I don't think that makes me a bad person.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: NJ
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i am.


ooops.
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:22 AM
 
Location: here.
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I've been wondering about this for some time. I know that most guys are lying, pervs yada yada. But what is a ballpark number for how many are not? Are we talking 10%, 1%? .2%?

I just need to know, because I know when I start dating again I'm going to meet a lot of pervs masquerading around as good guys, so I just need to be prepared.

And secondly, how often do guys lie when you meet them? It seems they lie a lot. Gah . See this is why women become lesbians, for this very reason.

Liz
I would say about 17%
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Old 07-25-2009, 12:55 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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I'd say 50/50.

I'm not too much of a perv.

Course I'm biased.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:29 AM
 
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I'm a perv to some women, the perfect man to others. But most of the time I'm a perv; I admit that. I know I'm not alone with the guys on this. If you're finding the majority of guys you meet are pervs or the guys hitting on you are pervs, that simply means they don't respect you, period. Of course all they want is sex out of the deal and will say and do anything to make it happen. That's not really a secret.

I'm always standoff-ish of women who readily admit to a string of bad relationships...or even their last one. If these men didn't respect you, why should I? Of course I'm not going to tell you this. I'm going get my free milk before I jump the fence.

Go on dating sites and read some of these profiles. Every other profile consists of:

"I want a man who won't hurt me..."
"Someone make me believe that not all men are bad..."
"I seem to have the knack for bad relationships..."
"NO users or abusers!..."

Here's some insite; you just lost ALL respect by ALL men in as little as your first sentence. If you aren't respected by others, what makes you think I'm going to be any different? I wouldn't even bring the past up but if you as a woman felt the need to do so, I would write something along the lines of:

"My last BF was a good, honest, hardworking man, but we finally realized we were just two different people."

I don't even care how bad he was. You say that, that signals to me, you're worthy of something, worthy or a good man, worthy of my respect and admiration.

This is where men and women differ a bit. Women don't respect other women unless they give them a reason to. Men don't respect women unless they give them a reason to, HOWEVER, men usually DO respect other men unless there is a reason NOT to.
Speak for yourself, Hans. Not all men think this way. If I meet a woman who says she's met nothing but jerks or had a series of bad relationships, I won't automatically assume there's something wrong with her. Your problem is you're giving all those men who rejected her the benefit of the doubt. Any why? Because they're male? You don't know those people. Maybe they were jerks. Maybe they were good liars. Who knows? We all have a past. We've all had people treat us badly. If a woman says she's had bad luck in relationships, a part of me may wonder if it has something to do with her. But until I know the full story, I give her the benefit of the doubt and accept what she tells me at face value. It's only if I get to know her and discover red flags in her personality that I'll finally say to myself, "Now I see why other guys have rejected her."
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: So Cal
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Look Nyc. I am not trying to trash men. I am asking an honest question. I have some life experience so I know that most men are perverts. I just want to know how many are not.

Very simple.
I think if your asking for an honest opinion it would be wise not to insult said questionee's, LOL.

That would be like a guy asking what percentages of women are wh&res and gold diggers.

A little idiom about flys and honey.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:06 AM
 
Location: lala land
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I think if your asking for an honest opinion it would be wise not to insult said questionee's, LOL.

That would be like a guy asking what percentages of women are wh&res and gold diggers.

A little idiom about flys and honey.
I never forced anyone to read it. If you want to answer it, its fine. If not - don't. Its very simple.

And on a side note, I think you need to double check the proper context of the idioms you are using.
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