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The point is junking away $100,000 in school costs/debt for something that is never going to be used to pay said debt off. If you're interested in it, take a course or two in it, don't major in it.
Let's see, I'm sort of in the mood for this, after spending the last two days chugging through *yet another* bar exam. As I said before, I was a religion/spanish double major in college. Where did that get me? To a top tier law school with a partial scholarship.
Did it matter what I majored in at college? Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, it was better that I majored in things that I was actually interested in (and tended therefore to do better in) than the more "useful" subjects. After all, my "silly majors" saved me about 50,000 dollars in law school tuition.
And, in the grand scheme of things, my "useless majors" have actually made me a heck of a lot more interesting to speak with at cocktail parties than you run of the mill computer science major. Don't discount that one...I've gotten some of my best jobs through networking like that.
So, now, what was your point? That some people are "turned off" by useless undergraduate majors? I'll end this post by reiterating what I said earlier in this thread, if someone judges me by *that*, I'm sure they're smart enough to find the exit door.
And that is another gripe I have with these majors, they're sooo easy, there really is no prestige or even respect about them. How many times does an employer look at job applications, sees psych major, and rolls his eyes?
Taken at face value, a major in mathematics isn't worth all that much. The world only needs so many math teachers. That being said, the possibility of the student finding a job semi-related to his major are excellent (accounting, banking) but ALSO a job that absolutely has no relevance to math. That's because employers look at the major just not at face value and what someone might have learned but also as a general preconception of who a person generally is.
Anyone can walk through a psych major. You don't walk through electrical/chem engineering or mathematics being stupid. Walk past a college in the middle of any given day and ask all the people playing frisbee on the front lawn what their majors are. You think employers don't know this? If someone came to me wanting a job and all he had was a math major, I'd almost want to make a job for him. That fact that he is a hard worker and dedicated is a given.
Then your company just got taken for a ride by yours truly. I was a math major and actually got great grades, but I'm the laziest, most noncommittal piece of crap I know. It's just that I've always been extremely gifted at understanding abstract concepts.
You gave me a great idea, though. Now I kind of want to go interview with some idiot hiring manager who thinks I'm some kind of god just because I understand real analysis. Take home a few paychecks for doing virtually nothing and then ride off into the sunset. It would serve him right for thinking the college major makes the man.
And that is another gripe I have with these majors, they're sooo easy, there really is no prestige or even respect about them. How many times does an employer look at job applications, sees psych major, and rolls his eyes?
No, they see the high GPA from the third rate school and say, "I can justify hiring this person."
Years ago, I did an audit on hiring and this is what I saw: high GPA, bad school and resume in pencil - gets job. Lower GPA from good school, not considered.
They may roll their eyes but HR is best at covering their butts!
I love liberal art degree holders, as long as they can feed themselves or I'm loaded enough to feed her. I know I probably will nail more $$$$ after graduation that most liberal art majors, at least initially. But after spending a decade in engineering, it really starts to wear me down, I still like it, but in no way I want to live with it 24/7. I'd love to have a woman with, say degree in music, to educate me on all the nice classic music I love but can't name. The fact that at least according to my experience, relatively few women major in science/engineering, those who do are too damn smart, doesn't help either. I love smartness, I just don't want somebody who knows so much about my speciality that the mere presence of her make me feel I deserve to be fired right here right now.
No, they see the high GPA from the third rate school and say, "I can justify hiring this person."
Years ago, I did an audit on hiring and this is what I saw: high GPA, bad school and resume in pencil - gets job. Lower GPA from good school, not considered.
They may roll their eyes but HR is best at covering their butts!
My own experience has been the exact opposite. All my employers commented on how impressed they were that a graduated from a really good school; not one of them ever requested my transcript or asked about my GPA.
My own experience has been the exact opposite. All my employers commented on how impressed they were that a graduated from a really good school; not one of them ever requested my transcript or asked about my GPA.
I've been part of the interview process and to be honest, once you have a few yrs under your belt with some accomplishments, that meant far more to us then what school someone went to or their GPA. This is at least applicable in my field anyway. Others may very I suppose.
Of, course, remember that this guy also believes that all newborns should be subjected to an immediate paternity test. Kind of a winner, if you ask me.
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