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in the suicides in my own life experience, anger played a big role.
others were not doing what they wanted
i have had worse things happen to me and did not kill myself.
how come? i enjoy disappointing my enemies so muich more. one of my great pleasures.
many do not understand who is the enemy.
matthew 10:36
It's probably more self centered to think about this persons suicide in terms of your interactions with him/her. Viewing that person as an object for your enjoyment and useage. Claiming them to be selfish because they could no longer serve your interests and may have put you into a slump. Either something (negative) is happening to you, or you did something (good) for yourself. The world as it relates to you, everything else is irrelevant. Its a fairly common viewpoint. In some places around the country and world theres a resistance to asking for help and your expected to take care of it (whatever it may be) on your own, anything else is looked down upon, or can't be understood by the majority of people.
My sisters husband hung himself last night, and she found him.
Is life really all that bad, that someone makes this decision to end it themselves?
Sorry, Wow, For some ppl it is that bad, a relative died last month,
they did a toxocology, suspected suicide. He had been hospitalized for
depression,as well as some serious medical problems,so to him,
it was.
He was going to go through with it one way or another and did.
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I'm not sensing very much compassion and caring coming out of you. This is an awful situation for the deceased and the living. It's not really a time to point fingers.
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It's probably more self centered to think about this persons suicide in terms of your interactions with him/her. Viewing that person as an object for your enjoyment and useage. Claiming them to be selfish because they could no longer serve your interests and may have put you into a slump. Either something (negative) is happening to you, or you did something (good) for yourself. The world as it relates to you, everything else is irrelevant. Its a fairly common viewpoint. In some places around the country and world theres a resistance to asking for help and your expected to take care of it (whatever it may be) on your own, anything else is looked down upon, or can't be understood by the majority of people.
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They are selfish (IMO), they dont see another way out the situtation that is troubling them, I cant really say. Sorry for your sister
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I'm so sorry Yankee, I can't imagine what your sister is going through.
I'm not to quick to judge. I think there are instances where it can be very selfish, but I also know that depression is a powerful thing and it should be taken seriously.
Maybe he had a terminal illness. I'd sure choose to go in a better way, like have a Dr. Kavorkian cocktail.
Suicide rates are highest for white males. Lowest for minorities.
Lol...Thanks Artsy, but he had no terminal illness.
I think he had alot on his shoulders, besides the depression, and alcohol, etc.
I have to wonder.....is suicide a selfish act, or an unselfish act?
He would have never......done this, if he was sober. Do we blame it on a selfish act, for suicide people, automatically? What about how they were, as a person, personality, etc. What if they were the type of person to think about everyone else...before themselves? What if they were the quiet type, who would do anything for anybody, but he`s not perfect?
When they decide to commit suicide, does that mean they are selfish?
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I'm hearing people blame the victim. How do we know this man didn't have some horrible terminal illness?
Artsy, did you NOT read the mental/emotional illness part in my post???? How was I blaming the man who killed himself? Please don't bark up this tree with me. I am the last person to accuse a victim and you know this.
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suicide is an individual action. make sure she does not blame herself. he had his demons to deal with.
its not her fault. if it were, maybe he would have done a murder suicide.
allah be mighty (or thank god), he didnt.
my condolences.
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She`s not... extremely upset, and possibly blames herself, thinking she could have saved him.
Depression and alcohol was definetly a factor, plus the fact that they were separating.
It just seems so.....FINAL! Wow!!
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