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Old 09-21-2009, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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I would just like to add to your thoughts with my opinion. I belive that since more women are screaming equal rights and trying to do the same thing as men, then this is why men don't feel they should get married. I mean, marriage use to be about a woman and a man standing by each other, loving each other unconditionally even through tough times and the woman would abide by her man and would not question his judgment; but now since women want to be the men, it's only natural for men to feel they shouldn't be in a realtionship because it will be a power struggle. It would be about who makes the most money, who doesn't make enough money, who will watch the kids, who doesn't have enough air to breathe and the list goes on and on. What women should realize is when something happens to them, now there will not be a man there to protect them because women put out the notion that, we can do it ourselfs and we don't need a man to depend on. So women should realize what they are saying because when they want that guy to hold the door for them, or to protect them, let's just put it like this, you can't have your cake and eat it to.
I think you said it all. Many married women keep saying to themselves "I am an individual". What they forget to say I am part of a wonderful marriage which complements and makes my life full. Marriage is a wonderful union which does not restrict either partner from growing, but adds to the relationship. Some women just can't let themselves feel it because they think we men want them to give up the identity.

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Old 09-21-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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Well, statistically speaking, whatever marriage you have is likely to end up in divorce. And after divorce, men need to pay alimony which can place very onerous financial burden on him without corresponding emotional or financial benefit. You tell me, would you rationally prefer such a risky endeavor?
That is nonsense. Many marriages do not end in divorce.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 02:20 PM
 
Location: southern california
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That is nonsense. Many marriages do not end in divorce.
no more nonsense than dumping your money in a casino and thinking you are unlucky.

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Old 09-21-2009, 02:20 PM
 
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That is nonsense. Many marriages do not end in divorce.
At some point I'm going to find the divorce rates for first time marriages so we can have a better idea of actual rates. I'm sure that data is available some where.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Rockland County New York
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no more nonesense than dumping your money in a casino and thinking you are unlucky.
So you are comparing the relationship a man and wife share to that of a slot machine? Marriage is not a gamble. If you love your spouse, you will spend time taking, sharing, making love etc. Most marriages don't end because of a mysterious and unknowing happening. It happens because of neglect.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: southern california
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So you are comparing the relationship a man and wife share to that of a slot machine? Marriage is not a gamble. If you love your spouse, you will spend time taking, sharing, making love etc. Most marriages don't end because of a mysterious and unknowing happening. It happens because of neglect.
are you trying to tell me that she was supposed to be having sex with me? you are assuming i did not do any of the above and was a bad husband. the casino assumed i lost money because i am unlucky and most players buy that. a lie. casinos are skilled at separating the player and his money, like the divorce game, when you lose they say you picked the wrong one, its all about you huck. dont be a sore loser.

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Old 09-21-2009, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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That is nonsense. Many marriages do not end in divorce.
Figure I've heard is 50% of all marriages fail/end in divorce.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 03:18 PM
 
Location: southern california
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No one is disputing that women sometimes are the primary problem and not just the man. But, njguy isn't even 90-10 about it - it's all or nothing 100% his reason and his reason only, when there are a number of reasons why these things occur. And I can cite statistic after statistic but if he chooses to believe it is only 100 percent how he views it from afar there's no discussing the issue - just bickering and arguing that goes no where.
thank you. most magnanimous, yes occasionally in very rare instances the woman is a cause or factor, but it oh so rare and most generous of you to concede this point.
and that my friend is why marriage is down 50%. that is why there is not an army of eligible bachelors running up and down the street saying please please marry me.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Cumberland Co., TN
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It's been said that the sexual revolution, feminist movement, performing the chores of fatherhood and loss of complete dominance in marital decision making has lead to making marriage less appealing to men. Has the marriage rate gone down? is this why?
One could argue the opposite. Perhaps it is the women that find marriage less appealing. Now that women are more or less on equal footing as men as far as earning potential and given the reproductive control over our bodies we no longer feel we must be dominated in a marriage. Why marry when we are expected to earn an equal income as well as be a domestic servent and produce children. Most women can financially support themselves, buy a home and car, have sex whenever they want, afford to hire someone for repairs and dont have to deal with cheating, physical and emotional abuse or picking up after and cooking for someone daily.
 
Old 09-21-2009, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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One could argue the opposite. Perhaps it is the women that find marriage less appealing. Now that women are more or less on equal footing as men as far as earning potential and given the reproductive control over our bodies we no longer feel we must be dominated in a marriage. Why marry when we are expected to earn an equal income as well as be a domestic servent and produce children. Most women can financially support themselves, buy a home and car, have sex whenever they want, afford to hire someone for repairs and dont have to deal with cheating, physical and emotional abuse or picking up after and cooking for someone daily.
Ah, but what if you're NOT expected to work for compensation?
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