Do men find marriage less appealing in this millenium? (emotionally, physically, reason)

[njguy]

Originally Posted by nuala

That's what I said - the very distrust will keep men with this mentality, from starting a relationship in the first place. No amount of participating in online forums will help. What you've earned, is bachelorhood.

When divorce happens in high numbers and the rest that I've said in this thread, a good percentage of Men will "distrust" or shy away because ON A WHIM he can be ruined more often than a female as she is the one that will file 70 - 75% of the time without any clue from the Man it was coming. Again, there are some exceptions.

So in this case Bachelorhood is much better than Divorcehood and its aftermath.

[njguy]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

no you have earned just under 1 million dollars--- average total cost of 3 divorces. (my income bracket)

How about some $$$ for me boss? - lol!

Seriously = OUUUUUCH!!!!!!!!

[Huckleberry3911948]

the OP makes a good point, does men's failing interest in marriage come from the desire to have total control in the marriage? not at all. the reason men bought into women lib was that the idea was power share, nothing wrong with that. but that is not what happened. vast majority of homes women wear the pants. divorce is the giant stick used to keep hubby in line. marriage is not a power share. he is property. the tables have turned. they werent looking for justice and fairness they were looking for power.
what we guys did not realize when we caved in ---was that the family would be so ruthlessly sold out to get that power. you have come a long way baby, but in which direction?

[2mares]

Originally Posted by Sunil's Dad

Yes, and what scares me to death is the extent to which they are ignored.

I cant disagree with you there. That is why you have to be very proactive in your divorce. Having $$ and a good attorney is a plus too.

Of the men I have talked to about their divorce and how they got the shaft, the majority of them just got beat down and signed papers without a fight or without actually knowing what they signed.

[njguy]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

the OP makes a good point, does men's falling interest in marriage come from the desire to have total control in the marriage? not at all. the reason men bought into women lib was that the idea was power share, nothing wrong with that. but that is not what happened. vast majority of homes women wear the pants. divorce is the giant stick used to keep hubby in line. marriage is not a power share. he is property. the tables have turned. they werent looking for justice and fairness they were looking for power.
what we guys did not realize when we caved in was that the family would be so ruthlessly sold out to get that power. you have come a long way baby, but in which direction?

As time goes on as they get older the "dominoes will fall" from what they started and a good percentage of the fems won't like it.

It's okay, if anything they have liberated Men in the process if they choose to take that path.

[njguy]

Originally Posted by 2mares

I cant disagree with you there. That is why you have to be very proactive in your divorce. Having $$ and a good attorney is a plus too.

Of the men I have talked to about their divorce and how they got the shaft, the majority of them just got beat down and signed papers without a fight or without actually knowing what they signed.

Sometimes the attorney and any attorney in that matter has no way of fighting no matter how much $$$ one spends on one. Because the system "is rigged" and even judges are biased that they make their own judgments against Men a good percentage of the time. So hence why the Men just sign and take it without lube.

[Huckleberry3911948]

Originally Posted by 2mares

I cant disagree with you there. That is why you have to be very proactive in your divorce. Having $$ and a good attorney is a plus too.

Of the men I have talked to about their divorce and how they got the shaft, the majority of them just got beat down and signed papers without a fight or without actually knowing what they signed.

see post #75. guts money and smarts does not prevent terrible unmerited suffering from the divorce game.

[Braunwyn]

Originally Posted by Huckleberry3911948

see post #75. guts money and smarts does not prevent terrible unmerited suffering from the divorce card. trust does not prevent betrayal, cowboy up is not a good answer to an unjust system that benefits many.

I asked you earlier if that was about having to poney up for half of the house and you never answered (as far as I know). Since you didn't, I figured that was the case. I don't see why it's a problem for assets obtained during a marriage to be split during divorce.

[AllAboutEve]

For centuries marriage in Western culture was very one sided. The women were basically treated as prizes to be won and owned. I think now that society has changed, the reasons for getting married have changed as well.

I don't think its a bad thing that women are more empowered. My mom is a strong woman, and so is my grandmother. Their strength has nothing to do with the feminist movement, its just something that has been passed down. I think the feminist movement is often used as the scapegoat, but I don't think it can be blamed for men (and some women) not wanting to get married.

And if divorce is seen as a problem - there is such a thing as a premarital agreement.

[njguy]

Originally Posted by AllAboutEve

I don't think its a bad thing that women are more empowered. My mom is a strong woman, and so is my grandmother. Their strength has nothing to do with the feminist movement, its just something that has been passed down. I think the feminist movement is often used as the scapegoat, but I don't think it can be blamed for men (and some women) not wanting to get married.

And if divorce is seen as a problem - there is such a thing as a premarital agreement.

A good percentage of females + empowerment + anti-male laws + pro-female double standards + pro-female biased judges and system = uses this empowerment that hurts Men a good percentage of the time for their benefit on a whim.

Premarital agreements are not worth the paper they're written on as in many cases judges throw them out by request of the female and her attorney for reasons to get a bigger and better deal while a smaller percentage survive.