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Old 10-19-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Nope. Most people like to pick and choose when Karma strikes and when it's just random luck. Bad thing happens to someone you don't like: Karma! They deserve it! Bad thing happens to someone you do like: bad luck! They don't deserve it! If you're going to believe in Karma, you have to believe that every bad thing that happens to you or someone you love is punishment for something bad you or they have done. You can't just be smug and think "Karma!" when something bad happens to someone you don't like.

While no one is perfect so it does stand to reason that bad things may happen to us in punishment for something bad we've done, even if overall, we are a good person - fact is, sometimes things, whether good or bad, happen to people who really don't deserve it.

I do believe that you reap what you sow - direct cause and effect. For example, if you're cold and rude to everyone around you and just generally a miserable git, it's not surprising if you find yourself lonely. No one wants to be around someone like that. But I do not believe that two completely unrelated things are somehow connected. In order to believe your racist door next neighbor got cancer because he's racist, you'd have to believe that every other cancer patient is also being punished for being an equally bad person. And I just don't believe that.
Karma is cause and effect/reap what you sow.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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If you are a good person and do good things and help others....you get a reputation....just like if you do bad things. Then, when bad things happen to you others will help or not help as the case may be. So, in that sense karma is a VERY real thing.

Karma is just another way of saying that you generate good or bad will and reap the consequences.
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Old 10-19-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Karma is cause and effect/reap what you sow.
No, not necessarily. Karma is believing, as my previous example, that someone who is racist got cancer because they are racist. Two completely unrelated things but Karma suggests the cancer is the result of being a hateful racist. If you believe that, yes, it's cause and effect and reap what you sow. But I don't believe the two are related or connected in anyway, therefore I don't believe in Karma.

If you consider Karma to also be something like my other example - a miserable, unlikable person winding up lonely because no one wants to be around someone like that - then yes, I do believe in that. But I do not subscribe to the wider belief of Karma connecting an individual's choice with crap that just happens regardless of what choices you have made in the past. As far as I'm aware, that is considered a part of the belief of Karma and I just don't buy into it.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:32 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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No, the racist got cancer bc he was genetically predisposed and exposed
to cancer causing elements, not bc some karmic witch doctor dished him his due.
There is alot of confusion and differing definitions on what Karma is and is not,
but for someone who hated this racist, there saying yeah, he got his.
That doesn't define karma for me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:33 PM
 
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Karma Sharma. Bwa ha ha.

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No, the racist got cancer bc he was genetically predisposed and exposed
to cancer causing elements, not bc some karmic witch doctor dished him his due.
There is alot of confusion and differing definitions on what Karma is and is not,
but for someone who hated this racist, there saying yeah, he got his.
That doesn't define karma for me.
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:34 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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Yeah, Blah , Blah , Blah
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Old 10-19-2009, 02:36 PM
 
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Meh. If a four-year-old child is diagnosed with leukemia, what exactly has that child done to deserve it?

However, I do believe that there are direct consequences for one's behavior. If you're kind and helpful to others, then the world is typically kind and helpful to you--and vice versa.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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Meh. If a four-year-old child is diagnosed with leukemia, what exactly has that child done to deserve it?

However, I do believe that there are direct consequences for one's behavior. If you're kind and helpful to others, then the world is typically kind and helpful to you--and vice versa.
Not a damn thing. That is why I do not believe.

Maybe because of all the bad I have seen in my career... People getting hurt or dieing who didn't deserve to be hurt or killed.

And in the end we all face the same fate "good" or "bad."
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:28 PM
 
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No It is mpore what you do in chioces and not waht you are born with in 99% of cases.
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Old 10-19-2009, 11:36 PM
 
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Karma? No. Life is life. Sometimes it's not fair, but it's all we got, so we have to make the best of it.

Karma Sutra? Absolutely. Seriously, who Doesn't believe in that?
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