Bad Economy = No girlfriend..Greedy people/women? (wives, younger, American)

[RazorRob305]

Originally Posted by RememberMee

If you started this thread hoping to hear something like "no, there are kind, understanding women out there who would overlook your current circumstances to see who you are, yada, yada, yada". No, there are few of those if any. You wouldn't give a chance to a 400lbs woman, would ya? I've thought so. However, if you are a dominant alfa jerk, you don't need much money or a job to have girl friends. It doesn't sound you are, so dating Miss Right and Miss Left seems are the most realistic options for time being.

Nature is cruel, women nature is to seek the most adapted to the environment males. Since humans are both biological and social creatures women are torn between picking the most biologically adapted males (dominance, physique) and the most socially adapted males (social status, job, money). Since there are a few males (relatively) who are dominant both biologically and socially, women have dilemma on their hands. Many solve it by getting pregnant by "bad (biologically dominant) boys" and letting "nice guys" (financially stable & responsible) to raise the litter.

On the other hand, males pick woman' looks first and foremost, everything else be damned. So, alternative to Ms. Right would be dating women that more adapted males are not eager to date, i.e. weight and aesthetically challenged women, you never know you may find a jewel. However, mentally stable (relatively) dateless women (unlike dateless men) are way more pickier regardless of their weight and looks, so don't expect 300 lbs girls chasing ya.

actually i did have a girlfriend 2 years ago who had the gastro bypass surgery not too about 6 months before i met her....some people would say she was fat but i liked the curves and she had a cute face too...so i really don't discriminate alot on the looks ....good thought though on this post....thanx

[RazorRob305]

Originally Posted by miu

What's wrong with prefering to date an employed man?? And for you to equal being employed with being rich is rather ridiculous. Being employed is having a decent job skill and being compensated for it. And if being unemployed was such an acceptable condition, then we should all be happy with how our economy is doing. Let's hope for even higher unemployment numbers...

As to his work with Dominos Pizza, if he disliked the way they run their franchises, then he really needed to find work elsewhere anyway. And to also encourage his friends to boycott and stop patronizing their business. As it is, I haven't had a Dominos product in at least six years. I prefer to patronize the local pizza shops.

Also, I think that he's too nice of a person to the point of being a doormat or too forgiving of his friends' faults. That's why he got his stuff stolen. Most likely one of his friends had a buddy that was shady. And in this day and age, if you have a friend with shady friends, it's best just to cut them loose. Or maybe it was a friend or roommate that was not diligent in locking the apartment or left it open for a friend.

Women do appreciate a nice guy, but they still want that nice guy to be tough enough to fight to make the quality of their lives better. Anyway, until the O.P. gets his life together, no woman is going to feel comfortable mingling her life with his.

Plus the O.P. is 32 years old, and most women his age are especially anxious to get married and have children soon.

And I can't believe that he was only four courses away from graduating, when things got so screwed up... and whatever he was studying, he says that he's forgotten completely. What was it that he was studying? Rocket science?

no i was studying electronics and how to make radio waves and communications with satellites....but i am a hands on guy and the school was hands on if you've ever heard of DeVry.....and there were machines we needed to use to complete our studies and unfortunately i don't have thousands of dollars to have bought all that equipment and hook it up at home and practice all the time with it so therefore i lost the knowledge of it....

[RazorRob305]

Originally Posted by james011

I totally agree with miu here. The OP is 32 with no career or even an inkling of what he wants to do. Instead he is whining about how girls in our society are materialistic and greedy. As a father, there is no way in hell I would approve a daughter of mine dating such a man, and I would expect my daughter to have enough sense as well. The same applies for a son of mine dating a woman with the same outlook as the OP. This isn't about greed, it's about pragmatism. You wouldn't buy a stock with no growth potential either. With no income and living with his parents, the OP is simply incapable of contributing his fair share to the marriage. He simply has no plan and is living day by day. What happens when the baby comes? This is the 21st Century, I don't subscribe to either a woman or a man permanently mooching at home while the spouse is the sole breadwinner.

Some of you guys don't seem to realize how competitive the next few decades are going to be in the States here as China continues to develop. The Americans with little education, job skills and work ethic are going to lose their shirts to globalization, they are going to join the rest of the Third World. This recession is just the beginning.

this is hillarious...someone didn't take time to read this whole thing....lol..Did i ever mention that i was a mooch?...i guess you think im staying at "mommy's" for free right?....lol....this must be a joke..i could have sworn i said something about paying rent with my unemployment and the last check and money i made at Domino's ....people act like ive been unemployed my whole life on here...lol...this is the first time since i was 16 that i haven't had a job....plus u mention how bad the economy is becoming and how u wouldnt let your kids date an unemployed guy not even knowing his situation or if he had plans ....lol...well i guess with that kind of thinking i would prepare for when your wife leaves you after this job loss thing starts happening because im sure that u have the possibility of being right in my shoes then ...so just watch what u say because it can come back to you

[RazorRob305]

Originally Posted by Jays1983

I would invest more in the OP than I would you anyday, judging by your dumb ass post.

He seems to understand his faults, why he is where he is, and where he wants to be. MOST OF ALL, he is ASKING for advice on how to get where he needs to be.

You, SADLY, pretend to nail this guy from what little you actually read. What I find is so funny is you seem to pretend like you have even the slightest understanding on what economics are going to take place in the next twenty years, I will tell you right now you have no ****ing clue.

Start a topic in "politics and controversies" and I will make you look like a fool. DM me when you get it all set up.

lol...that was funny and true...i do know my faults and do have plans for the future but thanks for backing me up and giving usefull advice...any one of us could end up unemployeed so i don't get the hostility im recieving for losing my job...it's not like i wanted to...lol...i miss my job and my friends and where i was living....now i just have to start over...thanks again

[RazorRob305]

Originally Posted by Glitterific

Honestly I'm going through that right now. My current lost his job and is on unemployment. He had to move in with his parents to save cash among other reasons. I'm still with him, he was a hard worker before, always had a job. I'll be breaking up with him in the near future, but it has nothing to do with his finances.

If I had met a great guy who was down on his luck- I would give him a chance to see if he was at least making a strong attempt to better himself and his life. If not, after a while it would not work. I need my partner to match my income at least. I already have a child to take care of, I won't be supporting an adult.

i hear ya on that....that's the logical response that i would give too if i was in the same situation as you..thanks

[miu]

Originally Posted by Jays1983

I would invest more in the OP than I would you anyday, judging by your dumb ass post.

He seems to understand his faults, why he is where he is, and where he wants to be. MOST OF ALL, he is ASKING for advice on how to get where he needs to be.

You, SADLY, pretend to nail this guy from what little you actually read. What I find is so funny is you seem to pretend like you have even the slightest understanding on what economics are going to take place in the next twenty years, I will tell you right now you have no ****ing clue.

Start a topic in "politics and controversies" and I will make you look like a fool. DM me when you get it all set up.

I only see two out of the three... he doesn't at all UNDERSTAND his faults, he's only listed the multitude of bad situations he's gotten himself into, and since he's decided that none of the situations were HIS fault, he certainly doesn't understand the WHY of all of his misfortunes. As for advice, he's not really asking for that. it's more like he's trying to guilt functioning single women into dating a hard luck guy like him.

And being already 32 years of age is really a big strike against him. And it's really kind of disturbing that his misses his old job at Domino's Pizza and his "friends". After all, he's not in his early 20's any longer. A job like that is a dead end job. Doing it didn't give him any decent marketable skills for working at a better job.

So basically, if it hadn't been for that roommate's lawsuit, the O.P. would have been content working at Domino's for many years... and it's not a job for a 30-something year old man that wants a decent girlfriend, one that probably would like to get married soon and have a family. The O.P. has got to stop thinking he's a young adult. It really won't be long before he's 40 and middle-aged as eight years isn't that far off for him.

Originally Posted by RazorRob305

lol...that was funny and true...i do know my faults and do have plans for the future but thanks for backing me up and giving usefull advice...any one of us could end up unemployeed so i don't get the hostility im recieving for losing my job...it's not like i wanted to...lol...i miss my job and my friends and where i was living....now i just have to start over...thanks again

[miu]

Originally Posted by RazorRob305

no i was studying electronics and how to make radio waves and communications with satellites....but i am a hands on guy and the school was hands on if you've ever heard of DeVry.....and there were machines we needed to use to complete our studies and unfortunately i don't have thousands of dollars to have bought all that equipment and hook it up at home and practice all the time with it so therefore i lost the knowledge of it....

My boyfriend tinkers with electronics as a hobby because he enjoys it. And you don't need thousands of dollars in equipment to teach yourself the basics. This week on my local craigslist, someone gave away for free an older oscilloscope. I bought us a used Fluke multimeter for $140 and he uses it to check all kinds of things like car wiring harnesses. Our big electronics supply store has all kinds of inexpensive hobbyist DIY kits. Soldering irons are cheap. My boyfriend is really good at soldering and modifying circuit boards. And there is a lot of free online knowledge. I'm sure that somewhere, there is an electronics enthusiasts forum somewhere. But there is so much you can do on your own, and that sort of knowledge is never forgotten. And once you master the basics of soldering and reading circuit board plans, you can start repairing small electronics and charging for your services.

I've heard of DeVry, and my impression is it is like the automotive tech schools in my area, expensive but fairly useless. And for someone that really wants to be a mechanic, that's the last place anyone should go to. The best mechanics I know are either self taught from working on their own cars, or worked their way up in a garage starting with sweeping the floors and doing oil changes.

Anyway, if you are truly a hands on handy sort of guy, go buy a used factory service manual for your car, a multimeter and the basic tools. Teach yourself how your car works and learn to repair it. Especially its electrical system as most mechanics hate to work on electrical problems. And after that, make side money repairing other people's cars. In a bad economy, people tend to keep their cars longer, and they need maintenance and repairs. As for what to charge, find a used copy of Chiltons labor guide which will tell you what each job's value is by labour hours. BTW used factory service manuals are each about $10-75. I get them off of craigslist and eBay all of the time. Don't waste your money on those Chilton repair manuals, they aren't any good for real knowledge. You only want real factory service manuals for your reference library. And in a pinch, see if a dealership will let you check out their collection of manuals, and they might even let you photocopy the pages you need until you can afford your own copy.

Maybe the Domino's Pizza franchise owners are too greedy for you, but buying a franchise is big bucks. Then they have to pay the rent on a decent location. And I would hope if you one day own your own place, that you be more like them. And that's what a woman is looking out for. A nice guy that looks out for the best interests of his woman and family. As to their new managers getting paid cheap, it's a big gamble for any owner to hire a new manager with no experience. A bad manager can cost them money and customers. Even if well paid, many don't stick it out. Anyway, don't ever go back to that sort of job, not at your age.

[miu]

Originally Posted by RazorRob305

this is hillarious...someone didn't take time to read this whole thing....lol..Did i ever mention that i was a mooch?...i guess you think im staying at "mommy's" for free right?....lol....this must be a joke..i could have sworn i said something about paying rent with my unemployment and the last check and money i made at Domino's ....people act like ive been unemployed my whole life on here...lol...this is the first time since i was 16 that i haven't had a job....plus u mention how bad the economy is becoming and how u wouldnt let your kids date an unemployed guy not even knowing his situation or if he had plans ....lol...well i guess with that kind of thinking i would prepare for when your wife leaves you after this job loss thing starts happening because im sure that u have the possibility of being right in my shoes then ...so just watch what u say because it can come back to you

So why are you 32 and still living from paycheck to paycheck? And I still think that once your roommate filed that lawsuit, you should have been proactive and either found yourself another job and quit before getting fired. Surely there are other pizza places in Florida to work at or other food delivery services. What about driving a cab if you like driving around so much?

Another thought about you wanting to drive a big rig. You should learn to be very handy mechanically with engines and the rest of the mechanical systems in a car or truck. If you wait until the truck driving school tries to teach you, that knowledge isn't going to stick with you, just like you've now forgotten your DeVry's knowledge. And you actually don't need to go to a formal school to drive a truck. All you need to do is pass the CDL test, and that's on you. Even with a certificate of passing from a truck drivers school, you still need to take that test on your own. So one way around it is to find a trucking business and talk you way in through the door and to work your way up. Much much cheaper for you and it's a better way to learn. But I actually think that the long hours in the cab would be really bad for your bum leg. And you'd better be a really good driver with a squeaky clean driving record going way back... because when a commercial truck driver gets a ticket, it shows on his record forever. And you also have to be diligent with your recordkeeping. Truck drivers have to keep logbooks of their travels and write down when they take their required rest breaks. And I hear that it's very stressful and difficult to meet a freight company's busy work expectations in a timely fashion, take the required rest breaks and NOT get any speeding tickets. Are you really sure that this would be the perfect job for you? Plus having a steady girlfriend or decent family life would be very challenging if you are on the road all of the time.

[macjr82]

what is your age group?

[james011]

Originally Posted by Jays1983

I would invest more in the OP than I would you anyday, judging by your dumb ass post.

He seems to understand his faults, why he is where he is, and where he wants to be. MOST OF ALL, he is ASKING for advice on how to get where he needs to be.

You, SADLY, pretend to nail this guy from what little you actually read. What I find is so funny is you seem to pretend like you have even the slightest understanding on what economics are going to take place in the next twenty years, I will tell you right now you have no ****ing clue.

Start a topic in "politics and controversies" and I will make you look like a fool. DM me when you get it all set up.

Did I struck a nerve? I could care less about your childish bravado. You expect to tell me what will take place in 20 years when you've barely lived 26 years yourself? If you want to criticize any points I made, criticize it directly with arguments and evidence, not empty threats of schooling someone you disagree. Because guess what? I'm still waiting since you've said nothing of substance in your little rant.

The OP doesn't understand his faults at all, he's blaming it entirely on bad luck and society. That's the biggest fault of all. By not seeing he has a huge role in all of his bad luck, he will never step out of his runt. People who are prepared make their own luck.