Is there a double standard for being submissive? (male, children, pregnant)

[smartalx]

Originally Posted by IZthe411

It's also a learning process. Men have to learn what it means to properly take the lead, and women have to learn what it means to be submissive. This takes time and experience.

Learning to partner dance helps a lot.

[smartalx]

Man Huckleberry I did not understand a word of what you wrote.

[Black Jack22]

Originally Posted by smartalx

You know that's very interesting. I think you might have just put me on the path to an epiphany. I have noticed in myself that when I am with emotional people I tend to be less emotional. I feel like I need to be the rock, to be the life preserver other people can grab onto in the midst of the raging sea of emotion. It works GREAT when I assist a salsa teacher who loses patience with the class very easily. I find myself able to help him to stay focused and to help the class from getting frustrated. I HAVE to. It's almost my job as an assistant. When I am alone I can be very emotional. So maybe that is something I need to look for. Maybe even in a mate. Hmmmm... Perhaps this is common in men and women and it encourages a duality in men and women to be unemotional and emotional wrecks. Perhaps women's emotional swings have an evolutionary purpose, giving men a reason to be strong, unwavering, supportive structures. Hmmmm... I'm definitely going to have to think on this more.

Thanks gwyn.

You are right.

A man's built in need to lead and guide compliment's a woman's emotional mind and needs.

That's why men are physically more superior.

Women need a man's direction in a relationship and marriage.

[Mathguy]

Submissive is fine if both parties are cool with it.

It's not my style, nor do I find it attractive....but some people like it so what the heck.

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by Mathguy

Submissive is fine if both parties are cool with it.

It's not my style, nor do I find it attractive....but some people like it so what the heck.

Hi Mathguy,

Strong people still submit. You and I submit to the rule of law. As I have stated before, when a women submits to a man it has nothing to do with her personality per se. In general women do not initiate sex. It happens when the woman submits to advances. She could very well be the prime minister....of Ukraine I hope. She has the eggs and you have squat.

EDIT: It also implies that you must offer something more since she already, just by being a woman, has a valuable commodity. If you attempt to display "equality" you did not make it across the shark tank. Hypergamy is a female trait. If you can't really do it, then fake it.

[JBT1980]

Originally Posted by Shizzles

On a personal level, I don't really know what to do anymore. I am a naturally cerebral and philsophically oriented person. I can be a man of action, but not on a physical level. Reading these boards, I feel as thought I have to completely rework my entire inner self to begin to be attractive to women.

Dont ever take what this board says as gospel,women are different and like different things

Dont change yourself because some women psycho analyze every move of a man and might think you arent a real man becasue you ask them what they want to do for dinner or whatever

[TKramar]

Smartalx, that doesn't explain why SOME women, even in dance, lead.

[TKramar]

Originally Posted by gwynedd1

Hi Mathguy,

Strong people still submit. You and I submit to the rule of law. As I have stated before, when a women submits to a man it has nothing to do with her personality per se. In general women do not initiate sex. It happens when the woman submits to advances. She could very well be the prime minister....of Ukraine I hope. She has the eggs and you have squat.

EDIT: It also implies that you must offer something more since she already, just by being a woman, has a valuable commodity. If you attempt to display "equality" you did not make it across the shark tank. Hypergamy is a female trait. If you can't really do it, then fake it.

This would imply that women aren't really interested in having sex--at all. This is a false assumption...many women actually enjoy sex and don't see it as a necessary "burden".

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by TKramar

This would imply that women aren't really interested in having sex--at all. This is a false assumption...many women actually enjoy sex and don't see it as a necessary "burden".

Hi TKramar,

When was the last time you were present during a delivery? Yes they do like sex, but typically with someone they hold in high esteem. A rock star needs no pick up lines.

[TKramar]

I hope never to be present during a delivery. I don't want kids of my own, and why would I be present at a stranger's?