What a narcissist will say and do (dates, mother-in-law, guys)

[NotARedneck]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

I think I know what I'm talking about. It is a complete misunderstanding when people presume that NPD is caused because parents coddled and adored their kids. Coddling and adoring doesn't create the hostility and envy that narcissists have hiding beneath their fake smile. But believe whatever you wish to believe.

If you are talking about some rare psychiatric disorder that requires a battery of mind altering drugs to cure, this I have to agree - you are right. Such people are likely highly delusional and this is sad.

However, if you are talking about the common kind of narcissism that people encounter almost daily, then YOU are wrong.

Narcissism is rampant among certain sectors of society. Among women, it is almost exclusively because of parental encouragement. Among pretty, young (naturally) blond busty females, at least 50 % have at least a moderate case. For people forced to deal with them on a daily basis, this is a chore, to put it mildly. Its surprising how many tolerate it too, like it is somehow warranted.

[virgode]

The ego is naturally narcissistic, alot of this is just ego. Better looking females can get away with more due to their looks, at that do you really think they can be classified as NPD?

Originally Posted by NotARedneck

If you are talking about some rare psychiatric disorder that requires a battery of mind altering drugs to cure, this I have to agree - you are right. Such people are likely highly delusional and this is sad.

However, if you are talking about the common kind of narcissism that people encounter almost daily, then YOU are wrong.

Narcissism is rampant among certain sectors of society. Among women, it is almost exclusively because of parental encouragement. Among pretty, young (naturally) blond busty females, at least 50 % have at least a moderate case. For people forced to deal with them on a daily basis, this is a chore, to put it mildly. Its surprising how many tolerate it too, like it is somehow warranted.

[TumbleBug]

There's another thread on the relationships section here - I think the OP may be a narcissist.

Do you know which active thread I am refering to? (I won't post a link - but it refers to a letter)

Interested in your thoughts...

[beachmel]

Originally Posted by NotARedneck

If you are talking about some rare psychiatric disorder that requires a battery of mind altering drugs to cure, this I have to agree - you are right. Such people are likely highly delusional and this is sad.

However, if you are talking about the common kind of narcissism that people encounter almost daily, then YOU are wrong.

Narcissism is rampant among certain sectors of society. Among women, it is almost exclusively because of parental encouragement. Among pretty, young (naturally) blond busty females, at least 50 % have at least a moderate case. For people forced to deal with them on a daily basis, this is a chore, to put it mildly. Its surprising how many tolerate it too, like it is somehow warranted.

It's parents who have caused this attitude in "pretty, young, blond, busty females? LOL...I just have to disagree with this! It's our culture that has told these gals they're better than other people and that they can get away with that attitude; hence, breast implants, push-up bras, and hair dye!! Also, you only have to look at how some families raise/have raised their children. There is always someone else to blame for their actions...it's always someone else's fault. "I got a C because that teacher doesn't LIKE me." What do the parents do? They run down to the superintendent of the school and complain about the teacher. They don't bother to remove the Wii or X-box from their kid's room and take away their cell phone....and MAKE their child do his/her homework. No, it's easier to believe that the teacher simply doesn't like their child. "After all, the assignments that teacher is giving the kids is just STUPID anyway."

We all have choices to make in this world. It's a flip of the coin as to how children turn out. People with narcissistic tendencies come from all walks of life and have been raised in vastly different ways. Ultimately, it's up to them who they want to be, how they treat people, and how they want to live their lives. It's all about choices. Behavior gets to be a habit. I think I'll stop now......cuz I could write a book here. LOL

[cricket_factor]

Originally Posted by artsyguy

Every narcissist I've known is either the boss, the supervisor, or the boss's favorite.

You are EXACTLY right, Artsy!

[virgode]

Originally Posted by TumbleBug

There's another thread on the relationships section here - I think the OP may be a narcissist.

Do you know which active thread I am refering to? (I won't post a link - but it refers to a letter)

Interested in your thoughts...

Relationships forum is full of posters with problems, anything other than to offer our own take and make suggestions is all thats necessary. There free to take it or leave it. To label posters with our TV diagnoses is unfair.

[tamajane]

I would think a lot of mama's boys are children of narcissistic mothers. I knew a few men who lived with their mothers, never having been on their own. They had no living skills and just never developed into adult men. Older women thought they were sweet and younger women were repelled. This is the mothers fault for not pushing their sons out of the nest. Two of the men I knew said they would never leave their moms and if they got married the mom would live with them. Oh no, of course they never married. These mothers stole their own children's lives and forced their identity to be wrapped up in them instead.

[beachmel]

Originally Posted by tamajane

I would think a lot of mama's boys are children of narcissistic mothers. I knew a few men who lived with their mothers, never having been on their own. They had no living skills and just never developed into adult men. Older women thought they were sweet and younger women were repelled. This is the mothers fault for not pushing their sons out of the nest. Two of the men I knew said they would never leave their moms and if they got married the mom would live with them. Oh no, of course they never married. These mothers stole their own children's lives and forced their identity to be wrapped up in them instead.

Yeah...lol...who's clinging to whom?

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by tamajane

I would think a lot of mama's boys are children of narcissistic mothers. I knew a few men who lived with their mothers, never having been on their own. They had no living skills and just never developed into adult men. Older women thought they were sweet and younger women were repelled. This is the mothers fault for not pushing their sons out of the nest. Two of the men I knew said they would never leave their moms and if they got married the mom would live with them. Oh no, of course they never married. These mothers stole their own children's lives and forced their identity to be wrapped up in them instead.

Of course they could have been pushed out of the nest and into the hands of another strong woman (the domineering wife) and ended up having a similar fate.

Your psychological insight really isn't. Some people (men and women) don't want to live life the way you, me or societiy says they should. That's really all it is.

[Curmudgeon]

I hate to burst anyone's bubble but narcissism is a personality disorder -- something people are born with, not something they're made. Just as sociopaths (anti-social personality disorder) and persons with borderline personality disorder (over-reaction to stress, disappointment, etc.) are also born with something missing in their personalities compared to most (a conscience, impulse control, reasonable judgement, etc.), a narcissist is born without the same measure of empathy and caring that most of us have and a self-centeredness most of us ascribe to very, very young children, not to adults. In infancy and the toddler stages it's natural and expected. In adulthood, most of us have outgrown it.

We all have an ego. That's natural. Children of alcoholics and drug addicts who have been neglected in childhood often act out, even in adulthood. That may seem to be narcissistic when, in reality, it's simply something they do to be seen because their parents often acted as if they weren't there and it's a missing factor in their lives. They may also become codependent. Children from broken homes often are. But none of these are mental illnesses or disorders and most can be helped, if not overcome, with talk therapy. Narcissism can be someone mitigated by a particular type of therapy but it never goes away. Psychotropic medications have no effect on the root cause.