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Old 01-02-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Denver Metro
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LOL, I was just braggin recently about not needing any stinkin Viagra.

I better shut up, cause you never know.
It's true. You never know...

 
Old 01-02-2010, 04:36 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Yeah, I was just kidding. Nothing wrong with younger guys needing Viagra though. It's a great invention for men with health issues
You would be surprised at how many men under 35 use a pill. I know quite a few guys in their 20's who use it for endurance and staying power. It also helps you be ready when she's ready. Those 20 something guys just won't easily admit to it's use.

Also, almost all guys hate condoms. If their SO requires a condom it really comes in handy to keep the guy going.

Speaking of Viagra, I always thought better marketing would be to make the pill a little smiley face just like this ...
 
Old 01-02-2010, 04:44 PM
 
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And You, "hon", did not understand my post. I never said women don't like fun interesting men. Players who fancy themselves "pick up artists" are not fun nor are they interesting nor are the anything that a real woman with her own life and interests would be interested in...you know, the evolved kind. And I never said he should lower his standards...you are obviously a man who has a lot of lines but no clue. The OP seemed to be sincerely asking how to find a girlfriend. Or did I get that wrong, "Hon".
See fellas, this is what we call a moving target. She frames pickup as a bad thing, I enlighten her, and then she reframes it as something else. Classic straw man. The truth is that she has no idea what she's talking about. Pickup isn't this seedy "trick" guys play on unsuspecting airheads. That's just an [subconscious] excuse so women feel better about guys realizing they can better themselves and get quality women leaving the rest of women, who as a whole have had the power in dating & relationships, to actually have to fend for themselves. Pickup, dating coaches, et al are gaining ground in popular culture and the knowledge they possess and impart on men presents a slowly changing paradigm. A subconscious level it freaks women out. It gives men the power to choose and get the women they actually desire for a change!
 
Old 01-02-2010, 04:55 PM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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See fellas, this is what we call a moving target. She frames pickup as a bad thing, I enlighten her, and then she reframes it as something else. Classic straw man. The truth is that she has no idea what she's talking about. Pickup isn't this seedy "trick" guys play on unsuspecting airheads. That's just an [subconscious] excuse so women feel better about guys realizing they can better themselves and get quality women leaving the rest of women, who as a whole have had the power in dating & relationships, to actually have to fend for themselves. Pickup, dating coaches, et al are gaining ground in popular culture and the knowledge they possess and impart on men presents a slowly changing paradigm. A subconscious level it freaks women out. It gives men the power to choose and get the women they actually desire for a change!
Actually, it is. I'm sure there are some men who employ the techniques of pick-up artists to find themselves healthy relationships with quality women. However, let's face it - the majority of men who are trying to become or are pick-up artists just want to get laid again and again by a large pool of women. For example, the closes? It's all about the physical stuff. . . a kiss or a lay. Furthermore, the pick-up artists DO prey on naive, unsuspecting, or just plain dumb women because I fail to see how a level-headed intelligent woman would NOT see straight through the pick-up artists game. A "neg" (backhanded compliment) doesn't work on women who see right through that $hit. The whole concept of a pick-up artist is to manipulate women. I think many pick-up artists get off on that because they used to be guys who had zero social skills with women. They get off on that power and control. While the foundation of learning how to be a pick-up artist does possess attractive characteristic traits such as confidence, directness, humor, etc., the whole concept is just slimy and predatory at best.
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:06 PM
 
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I am very high maintenence and expect wining and dining, I'm not going to lie. Once you've been wined and dined, you never go back to wanting pizza and beer.
I guess that's fine as long as you put the same energy back into the relationship.

Typically the women I see that are "high maintenance" tend to take and not put anything back in.

It's gotta be a two way street with me or your butt is out the door.
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:10 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Yeah, High Maintenance means you better be worth it. We can put up with and appreciate a HM woman who has the personality, looks and sex appeal to justify.

There is a thin line between High Maintenance and B**ch and many women don't know when they cross it.
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Denver Metro
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Hmmm....I don't know if I'm worth my high mantenience ways, but my husband seems to put up with me just fine.
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:21 PM
 
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See fellas, this is what we call a moving target. She frames pickup as a bad thing, I enlighten her, and then she reframes it as something else. Classic straw man. The truth is that she has no idea what she's talking about. Pickup isn't this seedy "trick" guys play on unsuspecting airheads. That's just an [subconscious] excuse so women feel better about guys realizing they can better themselves and get quality women leaving the rest of women, who as a whole have had the power in dating & relationships, to actually have to fend for themselves. Pickup, dating coaches, et al are gaining ground in popular culture and the knowledge they possess and impart on men presents a slowly changing paradigm. A subconscious level it freaks women out. It gives men the power to choose and get the women they actually desire for a change!
I sought outside help probably 6-7 years ago and by chance found an author named Tracey Cox, who has done the research on dating and relationships and put it altogether in a number of good books. Reading those turned the lightbulb on in my head and I learned a lot, mostly about body language.

Women in their 20's like to be in control. As women age often they realize trying to control their whole environment usually has a negative reaction for them. Men knowing what they are thinking to a high degree of accuracy is not something they like cause they don't have control.

I was using the knowledge from Tracey Cox to stunning success there for a while until one girl found the books in my bedroom and the crap hit the fan. What it amounted to was I had the playbook to her brain and it wasn't liked that I could essentially read her mind.

People are a lot more simple than they like to believe.
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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I sought outside help probably 6-7 years ago and by chance found an author named Tracey Cox, who has done the research on dating and relationships and put it altogether in a number of good books. Reading those turned the lightbulb on in my head and I learned a lot, mostly about body language.

Women in their 20's like to be in control. As women age often they realize trying to control their whole environment usually has a negative reaction for them. Men knowing what they are thinking to a high degree of accuracy is not something they like cause they don't have control.

I was using the knowledge from Tracey Cox to stunning success there for a while until one girl found the books in my bedroom and the crap hit the fan. What it amounted to was I had the playbook to her brain and it wasn't liked that I could essentially read her mind.

People are a lot more simple than they like to believe.

You were reading flirting tip books for girls?
 
Old 01-02-2010, 05:23 PM
 
Location: DFW
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Hmmm....I don't know if I'm worth my high maintenance ways, but my husband seems to put up with me just fine.
Then you must be are worth it. The benefits at home must be worth cost.
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