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Old 01-13-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: The cupboard under the sink
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Being 24 does not make you a man.

It only makes you 24.
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Old 01-13-2010, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Kuwait City, Kuwait.
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My sister is 24 [born in 1985] and she has pretty much similar views on men like the OP has on women. She is now married to her husband, who is a bit of a soft pusssy in his own right, but nonetheless is a pretty sound bloke. He tolerates stuff from my sister that other men wouldn't tolerate.

Perhaps it's the 1985 babies who are just mindless conceited self-opinionated folks who have an unduly high regard for themselves.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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the way you described women is the way the have always been and will always be. Just worry about yourself and don't worry about others. Ya, you might not like their behavior but I am sure there are people that have met you and didn't like you for some reason. Its part of life. Part of school is about learning to work with others, others you would not normally encounter in your own social circles. This will hopefully prepare you for the real world.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:32 PM
 
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That's pretty quick for a 24-year old. . . Oh, you have so much more to learn. I hate to see you so cynical at an early age. But, well . . . you are right about these women in many respects. . . however, men have made women what they are. . . . sex object who have to fight to keep their place because men can't keep their (you know what's in their pants). It' s vicious cycle not likely to end anytime soon. That's what happens when the sexual revolution really took hold. Don't despair . . . there women out there who have fine characters. . . usually not the beautiful ones though. So if you are struggling with that sex thing. . . 'fraid you'll never win that war without firm decision with help from above.
A-51-year-old-attractive-woman-who-knows
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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Well, that's easy- nice people like hanging out with nice people. The nice women like hanging out with the nice men, who don't hang out with self hating misogynists who watch porn in their evil mom's basement.

The nice women are avoiding you because you come off as hostile and angry. They are hanging out with the nice men and getting on with their lives. It's the same reason trampy women complain they can't get a good man. The good men want good women and they find them. The good women and not be as pretty and easy, but a truly good man appreciates them for who they are.
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:55 PM
 
Location: North America
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That's pretty quick for a 24-year old. . . Oh, you have so much more to learn. I hate to see you so cynical at an early age. But, well . . . you are right about these women in many respects. . . however, men have made women what they are. . . . sex object who have to fight to keep their place because men can't keep their (you know what's in their pants). It' s vicious cycle not likely to end anytime soon. That's what happens when the sexual revolution really took hold. Don't despair . . . there women out there who have fine characters. . . usually not the beautiful ones though. So if you are struggling with that sex thing. . . 'fraid you'll never win that war without firm decision with help from above.
A-51-year-old-attractive-woman-who-knows
Really? Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I find that looks have nothing to do with personality.
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Old 01-13-2010, 01:59 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Really? Maybe it's just the circles I run in, but I find that looks have nothing to do with personality.
ITA.

example: I have a friend who is absolutely flawless and she is the sweetest, nicest person ever. NEVER talks about her looks or how good looking she is.

Then there is this other girl we know. She's nothing special, terrible teeth, pear shaped body, etc. And she is hands down the most conceited, pompous biotch I know and a vicious gossip.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:06 PM
 
Location: New York, NY
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I don't know a lot of truly ugly nice people. The friends I have who are less than Vogue models have personalities that make up for it. I personally cannot be sexually attracted to someone who is a jerk- as soon as their true colors show, I just stop finding them attractive. Most of my crushes growing up were the "ugly" guys- I liked them because they were smart and kind and funny. I turned down a date with one of the class hotties in high school because I knew he had a "love 'em & leave 'em" reputation and it just made him gross in my eyes.

I'm guessing it's different for guys since women aren't as visually stimulated, but I have plenty of average looking guy friends with average looking girlfriends that love each other very much.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: North America
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I don't know a lot of truly ugly nice people. The friends I have who are less than Vogue models have personalities that make up for it. I personally cannot be sexually attracted to someone who is a jerk- as soon as their true colors show, I just stop finding them attractive. Most of my crushes growing up were the "ugly" guys- I liked them because they were smart and kind and funny. I turned down a date with one of the class hotties in high school because I knew he had a "love 'em & leave 'em" reputation and it just made him gross in my eyes.

I'm guessing it's different for guys since women aren't as visually stimulated, but I have plenty of average looking guy friends with average looking girlfriends that love each other very much.
Guys are the same, unless they're willing to suck it up just to sleep with her. I'm not that type. I can't even think about having sex with a girl with a horrible personality no matter how hot she is. But I do find myself thinking: "What a waste!" sometimes

As my brother and I were discussing recently. The relationship between the eyes and the mind is a funny thing. Someone who you initially think is ugly, often becomes beautiful as you get to know them, or vice versa.
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Old 01-14-2010, 06:17 AM
 
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I am curious to know how you arrived at being able to call the husbands dopey. What do you mean? Druggies? Stupid? Sleepy? Did you give them some type of personality test?

Unlearned(but credentialed,) predictable, willing to seek mediocrity(by their own terms and mine) so as to appeal to social sensibilities. Fake.

Dopey.
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It sounds like you have very limited experience with people in general, male or female. If you knew more men you would see that some of them exhibit the same pettiness and jealousy. And if you knew more women you would know that most of them are good to their friends.
You would be the first person I have ever heard make that argument. To clarify: do you really believe that?
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You can't possibly be 'treating women well' when these thoughts are going through your head. You might think everything is fine because you don't blurt out: "You disgust me!" to every women you pass by. But most women can sense it. Is it any wonder then that you bring out the worst in the few bad apples you've interacted with? No really.
Sparing my not-so-sober abilities, which include clairvoyance, I can't say I know what women are thinking around me.

I think I put on a pretty good show, though. Note also that these women were in my life via academic stuff, not social, and that I was using them as the best example of what I was trying to say. All of my experiences with women have formed these conclusions.
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