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So how exactly is a child's upbringing improved by the parents being married as oppossed to living together?
People are going to be good parents or they are going to be bad parents. Their marital status has nothing to do with how well they bring up a child.
40% of all births in the U.S. are out-of-wedlock and this percentage is increasing. It is not the 1900s anymore. Come into the 21st. century. It is not so bad.
Railing against marriage is the new black. People look at it much the same as they do religion these days ... a buy-in to an archaic and ridiculous tradition.
Funny though how the more progressive and independent our society becomes, the less civilized we seem to be. We've given up subscribing to the commandments that dictate more peaceful living, we no longer believe in marriage no matter how many benefits come along with it, and since we began sparing the rod and spoiling our kids, they've become undisciplined little hoodlums who get away (literally) with murder.
Society is reaping some pretty crappy rewards for all the independence that we demand.
Um, no. We should NOT be equal under the law. Gee, think what would happen in platonic roommate situations where it goes bad. Now you have roommates claiming they should be treated the same as married couples because one is trying to be vindictive against the other.
And many people change partners/roommates like a woman changes her clothes. So every single shackup/roommate should be treated like a married partner? That's just stupid. There's a reason why people shack up... so they don't lose what's theirs to the spouse. And roommates risk losing what they shouldn't in the first place.
I meant people in stable relationships and I assumed it would be read as such. For example in many European countries a relationship is deemed to be stable and long term after a set time.
Why should someone who got married after a drunken one night stand in Vegas be considered more worthy of society's ( and its associated benefits) approval than someone like myself who lived with someone for 21 years , happy, faithful and in a very stable relationship ? That to me makes no sense at all. And is really quite an offensive concept.
I meant people in stable relationships and I assumed it would be read as such. For example in many European countries a relationship is deemed to be stable and long term after a set time.
Why should someone who got married after a drunken one night stand in Vegas be considered more worthy of society's ( and its associated benefits) approval than someone like myself who lived with someone for 21 years , happy, faithful and in a very stable relationship ? That to me makes no sense at all. And is really quite an offensive concept.
YOU may have been stable for 21 years, but the majority of shack-ups aren't. We don't change laws/customs because of a very small minority. You want to be viewd as worthy, then GET "worthy."
I think sometimes it's a matter of being able to qualify for financial assistance(welfare). But probably even more common is one of the partners having bad credit. If they get married, their credit gets married too. One of the partners may have huge debt or be responsible for child support. Perhaps one of them owns a business as a partnership or sole proprietor. Something that makes it risky to join their finances.
There was a thread the other day about a woman who worked, saved, and bought a house with her own money. But now her new husband will claim 1/2 of it should they divorce.
It can be a smart decision to stay single if your credit is good and his sucks.....or vice versa.
I think sometimes it's a matter of being able to qualify for financial assistance(welfare). But probably even more common is one of the partners having bad credit. If they get married, their credit gets married too. One of the partners may have huge debt or be responsible for child support. Perhaps one of them owns a business as a partnership or sole proprietor. Something that makes it risky to join their finances.
There was a thread the other day about a woman who worked, saved, and bought a house with her own money. But now her new husband will claim 1/2 of it should they divorce.
It can be a smart decision to stay single if your credit is good and his sucks.....or vice versa.
Not to mention tax liabilities. A friend of mine's landlord just had to declare bankruptcy over back taxes and such. His wife told my friend that the IRS is docking her paycheck, too, even though he owed the back taxes before she married him. She's really ticked and you can't blame her.
Funny that since the OP here seems to love making blanket statements and judgments about other people's relationships, this nasty little aspect seems to have escaped her.
Marriage is a huge risk, especially during a recession/bad economy. That other person and his or her history can drag you WAY down into the mire.
People have been asking me that for years. We haven't gotten married yet because I had some credit issues and we wanted to take care of all of that before we tied ourselves together.
Not to mention tax liabilities. A friend of mine's landlord just had to declare bankruptcy over back taxes and such. His wife told my friend that the IRS is docking her paycheck, too, even though he owed the back taxes before she married him. She's really ticked and you can't blame her.
Funny that since the OP here seems to love making blanket statements and judgments about other people's relationships, this nasty little aspect seems to have escaped her.
Marriage is a huge risk, especially during a recession/bad economy. That other person and his or her history can drag you WAY down into the mire.
A friend of a friend yours made a poor choice selecting a partner, and you blame the institution of marriage? Bed down with the wrong person and there will always be consequences.
It is always a good idea to know someone before becoming intimate with them.
A friend of a friend yours made a poor choice selecting a partner, and you blame the institution of marriage? Bed down with the wrong person and there will always be consequences.
It is always a good idea to know someone before becoming intimate with them.
Sorry, but considering the high percentage of marriages that end in divorce or annulment, it seems there must be an awful lot of people who have hidden some undesirable attributes. Apparently, many aren't as perfect as you.
And before you go there, no, I'm not divorced. I choose not to marry.
I also believe that parenthood and marriage may not be concurrent callings. There are MANY people who are absolutely excellent parents and HORRIBLE spouses and this is especially true among women. How many men are virtually neglected once the kids come along because wifey is all into being "mommy" and puts that way above her role as wife?
I've also known people who were excellent marriage partners and HORRIBLE parents. They had one or two kids because they felt it was expected, and not because they had any huge desire to parent. Their kids reflected that negligence, too.
Every citizen should have the same rights. It is unfortunate that some do not want equal rights and benefits for singles.
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