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Old 03-09-2010, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Who cares? We have a society in which gender doesn't and shouldn't matter anymore. We almost had a woman president, for feck's sake (and trust me, I would have chosen her over Obama). Gender should not matter anymore....if guys want to be feminine, let 'em. If women want to join the army, let 'em (and many do). Life's too short to worry about which is the better or superior gender...NEWSFLASH: there is none! We are all equal and we were all created equally. Love and respect the opposite gender and you won't go far wrong.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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Old 03-09-2010, 08:58 PM
 
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gwynedd1 wrote:

Was that supposed to be the french word that roughly translated means something like "here it is"? It's spelled "voila" in French. There's a city in Washington state called Walla Walla but I don't think that's what you were referring to.

Well that figures. I speak some German, Russian and Spanish but not French. I guess we can go with an ignorant walla.


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Old 03-09-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: The Mango Tree
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Who cares? We have a society in which gender doesn't and shouldn't matter anymore. We almost had a woman president, for feck's sake (and trust me, I would have chosen her over Obama). Gender should not matter anymore....if guys want to be feminine, let 'em. If women want to join the army, let 'em (and many do). Life's too short to worry about which is the better or superior gender...NEWSFLASH: there is none! We are all equal and we were all created equally. Love and respect the opposite gender and you won't go far wrong.

Just my 2 cents worth.

But gender does matter because women and men are different physically, and I'm not just referring to genitals and breasts. We're different in terms of hormones, our brains, and our internal makeup as well. Men and women aren't meant to be the same. Then we'd all be asexual entities (and how boring would that be). There's a cliche that states it takes two to tango. That applies to men and women. Both sexes are needed in society. Both sexes have certain gender roles that tend to balance things out. Please note that I am not advocating one sex is better than the other. I adamantly believe in equality for both sexes. If a woman wants to be in the army, then she should go for it. If she wants to be a housewife, that's okay as well. The same goes for men. Each person should do what they enjoy and feel most comfortable doing. However, we cannot ignore the differences between men and women. They exist and they are not evil.
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Old 03-09-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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Said the man who whines and moans about how men have been emasculated.
Male bashing has been going on for so long that most people don't even bat an eye these days. 10 minutes of most broadcast TV such as the likes of Everybody Loves Raymond bears this out. Commercials, TV, print, Rom-Coms, you name it there's barely a peep about the negative portrayals in the mainstream media. What we do have is a culture that glorifies thugs, aggression, etc (see also: Jersey Shore). On the flip side of that very same coin most men who would be good role models are downplayed or crapped on by the women they share screen time with as though the women are superior is virtually every way. Name one popular "family" show that portrays a man and his masculinity in a positive way. Instead all we get are wussies, easily controlled, dufuses, idiots, and dolts. And people wonder why we've got the worlds largest prison population.

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I honestly can't think of a positive masculine role model for young boys and teens today. Furthermore violence against males is often seen as a joke or punch line. For the few who do speak out they're met with shaming language such as "you're just a loser that can't get a woman", "be a man", etc. If the shoe was on the other foot feminists and women's rights groups would be flipping out, and rightfully so.

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Old 03-09-2010, 10:59 PM
 
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I was just thinking about it...Thats one thing that I have to give feminists and most women credit for...they know how to game the system, and they know how to manipulate the rhetoric so that rules and social expectations ONLY APPLY to them when they want them to...

Take this thread for example..whats happening is you have a ton of men (myself included) bítching about women....well women do the exact same thing in every aspect of media...The difference is that women tell men that they have only themselves to blame and to "get over it", "quit whining" and so forth..."all women arent like that blah blah blah", they'll say.

Now on the surface this seems to be a very logical retort...BUT, when you watch how women (especially feminists) talk about men, they hardly EVER acknowledge individuality...Everything is "We 'Women' this, and 'women'' that...even though that lady over there is a working woman, we can still wire work her into a appearing to be a victim for the sake of the sisterhood"...They almost ALWAYS include every woman on the face of the earth when trying to play their victimhood card....they hardly ever make individual stipulations while making demands when its purpose is to reinforce their bellyaching.. at least not that Ive heard..and the few times that they try, they end up being made to look foolish by the women who dont buy into their victimhood

lol..but the moment a man addresses women in the aggregate, he must shut up and "stop generalizing"..."thats not me...those are only the women you've met because you are just a shallow loser who attracts those type of women"...

all of a sudden every third woman is the exception to his rule and all women are suddenly individuals...no one wants to be associated with the negative generalization and so they teeter under the singular umbrella of individuality..

but as long as they (the feminists) can all reach their hands in the women's collective discount bin by accepting that we are all victims of the male oppressor, then its all for one and one for all!..for now at least...lol...and they'll bellyache to the death on behalf of every other woman on earth (or so it would seem to the casual observer)......but the moment that negativity starts to enter the picture frame, the tactic is to just write everything off to isolated incidents, and reiterate how individual every woman must be regarded as being...but just a moment ago we were fighting the good fight on behalf of all women....what gives Gabby? just a funny bit of irony, flip flopping and hypocrisy that I couldnt resist pointing out.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:18 PM
 
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I was just thinking about it...Thats one thing that I have to give feminists and most women credit for...they know how to game the system, and they know how to manipulate the rhetoric so that rules and social expectations ONLY APPLY to them when they want them to...

Take this thread for example..whats happening is you have a ton of men (myself included) bítching about women....well women do the exact same thing in every aspect of media...The difference is that women tell men that they have only themselves to blame and to "get over it", "quit whining" and so forth..."all women arent like that blah blah blah", they'll say.

Now on the surface this seems to be a very logical retort...BUT, when you watch how women (especially feminists) talk about men, they hardly EVER acknowledge individuality...Everything is "We 'Women' this, and 'women'' that...even though that lady over there is a working woman, we can still wire work her into a appearing to be a victim for the sake of the sisterhood"...They almost ALWAYS include every woman on the face of the earth when trying to play their victimhood card....they hardly ever make individual stipulations while making demands when its purpose is to reinforce their bellyaching.. at least not that Ive heard..and the few times that they try, they end up being made to look foolish by the women who dont buy into their victimhood

lol..but the moment a man addresses women in the aggregate, he must shut up and "stop generalizing"..."thats not me...those are only the women you've met because you are just a shallow loser who attracts those type of women"...

all of a sudden every third woman is the exception to his rule and all women are suddenly individuals...no one wants to be associated with the negative generalization and so they teeter under the singular umbrella of individuality..

but as long as they (the feminists) can all reach their hands in the women's collective discount bin by accepting that we are all victims of the male oppressor, then its all for one and one for all!..for now at least...lol...and they'll bellyache to the death on behalf of every other woman on earth (or so it would seem to the casual observer)......but the moment that negativity starts to enter the picture frame, the tactic is to just write everything off to isolated incidents, and reiterate how individual every woman must be regarded as being...but just a moment ago we were fighting the good fight on behalf of all women....what gives Gabby? just a funny bit of irony, flip flopping and hypocrisy that I couldnt resist pointing out.
The great irony in the perpetual victim-hood is that they're getting draconian laws passed. Slowly they've fallen victim to their own legal wrangling. In many respects it's similar to all the cheer leading that happened when Bush was in office by his supporters, but now that the Dems have control everyone is backpedaling and saying how all this stuff needs to be reevaluated now that it might be used against them. For example, look at the case in Utah where a woman's child was adopted right out from under her when the kid was placed in temporary custody by the state after the mother was arrested on a trip for telling a flight attendant to shut the hell up. Woman went to jail, kid got carted off to a temp home, fast forward a while and the new family had "formed a bond" and legally adopted the kid (or were in the process of doing so). Mom didn't get a say and hasn't seen her child in who knows how long. It was feminists that lobbied for the courts and CPS to get these kinds of powers, and now the slopes are getting slippery. I can't find the link for the exact story at the moment, but this is pretty dang close:

UTAH ADOPTION STOMPS ON FATHER’S RIGHTS at Father Fighting to Stop the Adoption of his Daughter
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:43 PM
 
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I was just thinking about it...Thats one thing that I have to give feminists and most women credit for...they know how to game the system, and they know how to manipulate the rhetoric so that rules and social expectations ONLY APPLY to them when they want them to...

Take this thread for example..whats happening is you have a ton of men (myself included) bítching about women....well women do the exact same thing in every aspect of media...The difference is that women tell men that they have only themselves to blame and to "get over it", "quit whining" and so forth..."all women arent like that blah blah blah", they'll say.

Now on the surface this seems to be a very logical retort...BUT, when you watch how women (especially feminists) talk about men, they hardly EVER acknowledge individuality...Everything is "We 'Women' this, and 'women'' that...even though that lady over there is a working woman, we can still wire work her into a appearing to be a victim for the sake of the sisterhood"...They almost ALWAYS include every woman on the face of the earth when trying to play their victimhood card....they hardly ever make individual stipulations while making demands when its purpose is to reinforce their bellyaching.. at least not that Ive heard..and the few times that they try, they end up being made to look foolish by the women who dont buy into their victimhood

lol..but the moment a man addresses women in the aggregate, he must shut up and "stop generalizing"..."thats not me...those are only the women you've met because you are just a shallow loser who attracts those type of women"...

all of a sudden every third woman is the exception to his rule and all women are suddenly individuals...no one wants to be associated with the negative generalization and so they teeter under the singular umbrella of individuality..

but as long as they (the feminists) can all reach their hands in the women's collective discount bin by accepting that we are all victims of the male oppressor, then its all for one and one for all!..for now at least...lol...and they'll bellyache to the death on behalf of every other woman on earth (or so it would seem to the casual observer)......but the moment that negativity starts to enter the picture frame, the tactic is to just write everything off to isolated incidents, and reiterate how individual every woman must be regarded as being...but just a moment ago we were fighting the good fight on behalf of all women....what gives Gabby? just a funny bit of irony, flip flopping and hypocrisy that I couldnt resist pointing out.


Hi solytaire,

Congratulations on deciphering the rhetorical gimmick. Indeed generalizations, as I have stated, are ubiquitous. Women as victims are referred to in the aggregate while responses are countered with anecdotes and phantom abuses of generalizations.

The sexes ruthlessly exploit the other in the sexual arms race. Women score easy points crushing the will of plebs only to be smashed by the colossus men of glamor. Humans are a hypocritical slimy adhesion, a cephalopod suckering up the wall.
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Old 03-09-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: southern california
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to every woman that has been treated bad and named called w/o cause


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Old 03-10-2010, 12:00 AM
 
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to every woman that has been treated bad and named called w/o cause

hahahahahahahahaha!!

and its the exact same pic...he didnt even bother to get a different pic...lmao...classic!
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:41 AM
 
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In the end, who cares about this silliness. We live in a country that's going straight to hell. Our economy is a train wreck, we're involved in two wars that WE started (one of them at least...the first one is highly questionable), and we're on a plunging flight into the abyss of socialism. Top if all off with the fact that we're probably all gonna die in 2012. Puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
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