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I'm not convinced there's even such a thing as either a beta female or beta male. I think people's personalities are so complex and so unique that it's simplistic to try to put a label on them. There are also so many factors and qualities that make up our personalities that a person who may appear to be awkward or shy in certain circumstances may also excel and be very confident in other situations. The terms beta and alpha are probably as much about pop culture as pop psychology.
I'm not convinced there's even such a thing as either a beta female or beta male. I think people's personalities are so complex and so unique that it's simplistic to try to put a label on them. There are also so many factors and qualities that make up our personalities that a person who may appear to be awkward or shy in certain circumstances may also excel and be very confident in other situations. The terms beta and alpha are probably as much about pop culture as pop psychology.
I feel the same way about beta-carotene. Enough with the labels already.
No, a beta male MIGHT get attention from a 500 lb woman, but that's different than you being rejected by your ideal man. Are you on facebook? Al the nerdy girls got married, have familes, husbands, and the beta m ale sare still all celibate. Unless you are in the 500 lb category, you have it better. FACT.
DEAL.
Real attorneys don't punctuate their arguments by declaring them fact. They let the argument stand on its own.
If a beta male is still celibate, it's most likely his attitude that's turning off women. For every woman who goes for the bad boy, there are plenty who've grown past that stage. Your problem is you lump all women into the same category. Here's a newsflash. Not all women think the same and until you wrap your head around that, you'll never succeed with them. And apparently, it's easier for you to blame women for your lack of success. Take a look at yourself and you might find the real root of your problem. You could be 6'4" and look like Brad Pitt. But with your attitude, most women would run for the hills.
Not getting attention from the men you WANT attention from, is not the same thing as being unable to get attention....its so rare for women to not get attention at all.
Undesirable men however, may never get attention from anyone..period.
I think this is really indicative of the fact that women kind of take the fact that they are always sought after by SOMEone (whether they like the person or not) for granted.
That might affect the ego differently, men's being easier to bruise, but the end result is the same. Not taking it for granted, just being realistic.
Most women are able to date within their "type", and have reciprocal relationships. It is pretty dorky for a woman to not be able to pull that off.
OK, I have a problem again with the much-loved American lists and classifications! I don't consider myself a "party" girl, but I wouldn't describe myself as a mousy type, either. What's my label, Coolhand? Off the charts loonie?
Foreigner...
I'm not pigeon-holing women into set categories, more like firast impressions or overall impressions. We all accept that Alpha males have certain characteristics that identify them as such. Women look at a man and see jocks, nerds, intellectuals, artistic types etc. Women are sized up by men the same way. You see a crowd of girls out at a club and you can typically size up who is the more "alpha" outgoing type, and who is the more reserved or shy type (beta) just by observing. That's not to say that someone can't share traits from both.
You see a crowd of girls out at a club and you can typically size up who is the more "alpha" outgoing type, and who is the more reserved or shy type (beta) just by observing. That's not to say that someone can't share traits from both.
That might affect the ego differently, men's being easier to bruise, but the end result is the same. Not taking it for granted, just being realistic.
Most women are able to date within their "type", and have reciprocal relationships. It is pretty dorky for a woman to not be able to pull that off.
Excuse me for my misunderstanding, but Im not quite understanding what you're saying here...I dont see how a man's ego could be much more damaged after being absolutely undesired. I agree that its pretty rare, if not altogether unrealistic, for a woman not to be able to find someone her type...however some women do use this excuse interchangeably with the phrase "no good men left..."...or "I cant find a man"...which is factually incorrect. There are simply men they arent willing to date left...but they are there...and I would guess that they are 8/10 (ad hoc stat..lol) interested in some sort of relationship with those women.
Excuse me for my misunderstanding, but Im not quite understanding what you're saying here...I dont see how a man's ego could be much more damaged after being absolutely undesired. I agree that its pretty rare, if not altogether unrealistic, for a woman not to be able to find someone her type...however some women do use this excuse interchangeably with the phrase "no good men left..."...or "I cant find a man"...which is factually incorrect. There are simply men they arent willing to date left...but they are there...and I would guess that they are 8/10 (ad hoc stat..lol) interested in some sort of relationship with those women.
Agreed, that it is very damaging to a man's ego to be univerally rejected by women.
That isn't normally a problem for women but they have their own separate issues that damage them as well.
If you've dated alot, even outside your comfort zone, and you like people and are open minded, know what you want, but can't force anything to materialize- that is it's own kind of torture.
closest thing is the ugly chick with the hot friend. but even the ugly friend can get laid if she wants to.
Ugly males CAN get laid as well. I have seen it first hand, second hand many times. They can't pull a Alicia Keys type, but nonetheless they still can get laid by average Janes and ugly Bettys. Fact.
When ugly men say "I can't get laid" that basically means "I can't get laid by super hot women whom I'd never have a chance with anyway". People really need to know where they stand in the attractiveness scale and the pecking order. That's the problem with men. Same with women who say "There are no good men left.." Now sweetheart, there ARE many good men left but none of them want you because you are not good enough for them.
I wish people would understand those basic principles.
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Off the charts loonie?
