Men who use escort services on craigslist, backpage, etc (feelings, relations, cuddling)

[penguin_kernel]

Why the judgement? Are you perfect yourself? So what if a guy prefers to hire a working girl to satisfy his needs. He is not hurting anyone and his life choices should not be judged. I am not religious but I do go by the *Let he who is without sin cast the first stone* Some people don't put much value on sex and see it as a mere tool to satisfy oneself, and they prefer to pay someone upfront and get it over with. As long as the guy is upfront about it and does not hide it from a life partner I see ZERO problem with this.

[Amelorn]

Originally Posted by ReblTeen84

Oh lord...thats a cop out story if I ever heard one. I was 16 when I lost my virginity and I definitelty didn't lose it to a hooker. I was 5'8 and 115lbs soaking wet. Was, and still am, a monsterous nerd and still managed to snag a hottie. I got married at 23 and still going strong at 27. I can see getting a hooker/escort on business for a good night if that's your thing, but any guy with a semblence of caring should be able to pick up a girl otherwise.

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Hmm. From my observations, to be skinny is better than to be pudgy. Also, I wouldn't class myself as a nerd. I like enough of that subset, but I dislike to much to fully identify with them.

[foadi]

Originally Posted by ReblTeen84

Gotta put in my two cents here. My general mantra is if you have to pay for sex, you didn't need it in the first place. Having just been to Vegas, it was funny seeing all the escorts/hookers and guys with them. Fellas...put a little effort into it. Dinner and pearls are still cheaper than 3 grand (or more) a night

(For the record - I'm married.)

$3,000/night? is that really the going rate in vegas? crazy if true. in macau, which is much more of a high-roller destination than vegas, you can get genuine dime pieces for a fraction of that, think the most i've paid there is like 2000HKD (US$250) for a model category girl at a high end sauna and that even included free drinks, food, and a place to crash for the night lol.

$3,000 can go a lot of way in most of the world. two of my trips last year (a three week trip to the philippines, and a three week trip to colombia) cost $3,500 all in including flights, hotels, and around 30 different girls on each trip. no need to blow so much money on one girl for one night.

as for the notion that guys should just put a little effort in to get straight girls, that's silly. some guys actually enjoy the mongering lifestyle.

[TAHOE GIRL]

Originally Posted by foadi

$3,000/night? is that really the going rate in vegas? crazy if true. in macau, which is much more of a high-roller destination than vegas, you can get genuine dime pieces for a fraction of that, think the most i've paid there is like 2000HKD (US$250) for a model category girl at a high end sauna and that even included free drinks, food, and a place to crash for the night lol.

$3,000 can go a lot of way in most of the world. two of my trips last year (a three week trip to the philippines, and a three week trip to colombia) cost $3,500 all in including flights, hotels, and around 30 different girls on each trip. no need to blow so much money on one girl for one night.

as for the notion that guys should just put a little effort in to get straight girls, that's silly. some guys actually enjoy the mongering lifestyle.

baby that is not the GOING rate in vegas. you have a few that will say that is their rate but in these financial times you negotiate.


how the biz works is you first introduce a big number and work down from there becuase if you throw out a low number u can't that UP... when you visit a legal brothel a gal with give you a tour and say time with her is $5000 lets say now if she said $500 then you cant bring up the rate.. this way you have leverage. When a man wants it he things with the other head if you know what i am talkin

[foadi]

i'm familiar with the negotiation process, and asking prices. just don't know what the going/market rate is. the legal brothels are a seperate market altogether, completely independent of the traditional rules of the game, and i seriously doubt they make up more than 1% of the market share of the prostitution business in nevada, so not really relevant. the lounge girls you find in casinos on the las vegas strip is what i was wondering about, i know they generally ask $200-300 for short time, did not know their all night rates. even if it is as low as $500, still a rip off IMO.

P4P is a complete waste of money in the US unless you're at like charlie sheens level, but not many have that kind of money.

[ReblTeen84]

I got bored and Googled it. Damn if the nightly rate for girls advertising wasn't 3 grand. Some were cheaper, but it floated around there. Im sure you can negotiate and I'm positive there are cheaper girls, especially if you talk to one of the huslters on the strip, but STILL...no way I'd pay that kind of money or anywhere close to play

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[I_Love_LI_but]

Go to Amsterdam. The operate it like a butcher shop with the meat in the windows.

[Skydive Outlaw]

A guy can pay an extremely hot woman in Las Vegas $500 a night for sex
or he can get married to a hot woman.

Assuming he is married to her for approximately 20 years before dying and has sex with her four once a week for twenty years (which would be about 50 times a year times 20 years for a total of 1,000 times).

Now the same 1,000 times in Vegas over the course of 20 years would cost him (not adjusting for inflation, CPI and nominal versus real dollars)
about $500,000 (and not factoring in the money being after taxes/his tax rate, etc)

Versus being married to the same woman using the same mathematical formula and it could cost him about $750,000 using the following factors/variables over the course of 20 years.

Leaving behind a life insurance policy of at least $250,000

Having to make a mortgage payment on a house he won't need after he dies that will have about $200,000 in equity for his wife after he dies.

Miscellaneous other expenses related to being married to her from the point of inception (engagement). Engagement, wedding rings, increased cost of living during the period of time being married (even excluding having children, raising them and paying for their college) like new cars for her, vacations, paying off her college loans andadditional expenses for her medical care, lifestyle, etc at at average cost of another $15,000 a year times twenty years equaling $300,000.

Combined those numbers equal $750,000 which is a total that is a quarter of a million dollars more than if he just went the other route using the Las Vegas call girl option. (and that option would include different women that were all more than likely hotter and younger.)

Now with that being said. I'm just playing devil's advocate with those scenarios. I would never pay a woman for sex. I actually appreciate the intimacy, committment and passion involved with being with one woman in a monogamous relationship and the fact that when we are together it is because she wants to be with me, and that is absolutely priceless.

Either way though, I understand why some guys take a different approach. The numbers used above do not even factor in the real cost if the marriage does not work out and / or there are children involved, with daycare, child support and funding their college tuition and other life stress and drama that goes along with all of that.

[ucbrian]

Originally Posted by dvcgal

It doesn't bother me as long as they decide not to return to the dating world. Not to upset anyone but I don't want to be with a guy who has sex with an escort/prostitute. I

If you date over 10 guys in your lifetime, statistically you've dated one of those guys. It's all a numbers game.

[ucbrian]

Originally Posted by DavieJ89

truth be told, idk i just know he uses them frequently as he collects a very sweet pension and the money isnt an issue for him (home is paid off, no debt, his pensions clears $80k easily), as he retired young at the age of 53

You cannot extrapolate that a person is having sex with escorts based on the above assumptions.