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Old 10-30-2011, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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i think most of those are the guy's own issues, not the girl's.

3,4,5,6,7,8,9 seem reasoned, but points 1 and 2 seem like cop-outs for a lack of confidence. I'm probably the minority amongst men (lol.. as if an opinion's value is gauged by how many people believe it, but i'm digressing), but i don't put 10/hot women on a pedestal. I refuse to. I don't really think anybody is worthy of better treatment simply due to being hot. Granted, they're hot, but they still have the same vulnerabilities and weaknesses as everybody else.

For point 2, perhaps getting more self-esteem and self-assuredness is key.
I agree.
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Old 10-30-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Ana
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and going after what you want is a Masculine thing, where is the argument in that? doesn't make sense
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Old 10-31-2011, 11:15 AM
 
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Here's my #1-10: a lot of 20-something American women--regardless of race, bi-gender, ethnicity, geography, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, looks, country of origin, intellect, career potential and advancement, and educational attainment--are NOT worth approaching these days. Sour looks, snobby attitudes, poor to practically zero manners, argumentative, arrogant, and plainly cold are the norm. And this isn't just California, where I live now; this applies to Ohio, Kentucky, Texas, New Jersey, Florida, etc.

The number of 20-something women I find myself even wanting to have a one night stand with, no less even remotely consider relationship material, is slim to none. You gotta have a good personality (or, in the case of a ONS'er, a fun one). And, either way, some sense of humor! I'm truthfully not picky in my requirements, but I am picky when it comes to "feeling connection." If I don't connect, I don't waste my time and yours. Simple as that.

I have, however, found myself attracted to the early 30s-early 40s crowd. They be more grown up generally. Guess I'm a cougar lover! As for the parents (especially mothers, your daughters look to you if even subconsciously) of up-and-coming young women, raise them to be women, not lifelong girls!!!
Wow, reading this post and many others gives me the impression that the scene is brutal back in the States. It seems like with the younger generation of people in their early 20's (both guys and girls), it is in style to be rude and disrespectful. It isn't just California, but it seems to have originated there like everything else, since everyone wants to be like Californians. It spreads to other countries as well.
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Old 11-01-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Wow, reading this post and many others gives me the impression that the scene is brutal back in the States. It seems like with the younger generation of people in their early 20's (both guys and girls), it is in style to be rude and disrespectful. It isn't just California, but it seems to have originated there like everything else, since everyone wants to be like Californians. It spreads to other countries as well.
While there many douchey guys--who the girls**, even into their 30s and 40s sometimes--really fall for, the attitudes are worse among women altogether.

Quite honestly, I think, at least in the case of urban California, that it is high-income parents + East Coast attitude (parents probably from East Coast) + MTV/reality junk TV influence = literally don't know any better. In the case of much of the rest of the nation, it is still MTV/reality junk TV still portraying how you can "be" to be "cool" in society. My theories, anyway. At any rate, most American 20-something women truly aren't worth time of day.

**Girls have the faux "status" mentality. (I'm not talking about a Walton marrying a Gates, just for example, or Tom Cruise-Nicole Kidman; in other words, I understand why the truly wealthy stay within their own realm.) Real women have overcome that mentality.
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