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Old 05-09-2010, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL (Northside)
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So, half robot that will do your bidding when you want, but also has ambition and dreams lol. Yep, that's a toon.
No, that's called wanting balance; wanting someone with their own mind that knows how to play her position, i.e. let me run things while standing by my side as an equal. I'm the President/CEO of the relationship, she's the Senior VP so we both have equal say. I'll take that any day over a woman that's too strong for her own good. Now THAT's a toon.

 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:03 PM
 
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No, that's called wanting balance; wanting someone with their own mind that knows how to play her position, i.e. let me run things while standing by my side as an equal. I'm the President/CEO of the relationship, she's the Senior VP so we both have equal say. I'll take that any day over a woman that's too strong for her own good. Now THAT's a toon.
Since when does a VP have equal say as a prez/CEO? Letting you run things but being your equal? It doesn't add up, much less actually work that way.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL (Northside)
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It does add up, let alone work because while the head has final say in a matter, they take their partner's feelings/views into consideration. It's all about your partner letting you take charge, knowing and trusting them to act in a way that benefits them and you. That's what I mean.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:13 PM
 
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No, that's called wanting balance; wanting someone with their own mind that knows how to play her position, i.e. let me run things while standing by my side as an equal. I'm the President/CEO of the relationship, she's the Senior VP so we both have equal say. I'll take that any day over a woman that's too strong for her own good. Now THAT's a toon.
lol People that need to control and lead people around, all the while having their heads wedged up their back orifice, are not going to garner a woman that has dreams and ambition. People with dreams, ambition, drive, etc (ya know, the movers in their own lives) are individuals; grown adults, that are fully capable of making appropriate decisions and conducting their lives with integrity. If you want to lead somebody around in circles it's going to have to be a stepford. I don't see any way around that. I'd wish you luck, but it would be pointless.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: My Private Island
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It does add up, let alone work because while the head has final say in a matter, they take their partner's feelings/views into consideration. It's all about your partner letting you take charge, knowing and trusting them to act in a way that benefits them and you. That's what I mean.
You just want to be the boss....good luck finding a woman to go along with that plan.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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It does add up, let alone work because while the head has final say in a matter, they take their partner's feelings/views into consideration. It's all about your partner letting you take charge, knowing and trusting them to act in a way that benefits them and you. That's what I mean.
How in the world are you going to know what benefits the dreams of another? Do you plan on taking up residence in somebody's brain? It takes years and years to really get to know our partners. People are quite complex. Why not trust your partner to know what's best for her, to appropriately compromise and contribute to the relationship as she see's fit? Obviously, you want her to trust you, but you are incapable of doing so yourself. swmrbird is correct. It doesn't add up.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:45 PM
 
Location: USA
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No, that's called wanting balance; wanting someone with their own mind that knows how to play her position, i.e. let me run things while standing by my side as an equal. I'm the President/CEO of the relationship, she's the Senior VP so we both have equal say. I'll take that any day over a woman that's too strong for her own good. Now THAT's a toon.
I agree.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:52 PM
 
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I think the reason why they are so many single women is that they ask too much. Their expectations are too High.

The reason that makes me think that is that I come from a South american background and my dad has 10 brothers and sisters and my mom too. Big Family.

My aunts from my moms side married men from north america (Canada) and i asked them how it happened. The overall story that they told me is that they got tired of the over demands of many north american Women they dated until they started dating women from other nationalities. One of my uncles is married to a russian woman.

From what is see about South American woman is that they put Family before work, They have beauty issues (need to be perfect even after they marry), More traditional values (more feminine don't mind letting the man lead as long as they have a say), Love to cook, are less materialistic, value marriage and treat men better.

For the North i'll let you be your own judge...

If you can provide a better detail about dating Foreign women Vs American woman add your reasons or Opinions on the matter...
First of all, your post is so flawed I don't know where to begin.

North American women? Who? Americans? Canadians? Mexicans? Yes, Mexico is part of LATIN America but Mexico is also part of NORTH America.

Secondly, there is a colossal level of variety even in the United States. Or do you think there are no North American women in Seattle, Toronto, or Pachuca who do not have beauty issues, who shun traditional values, and who dislike cooking? Who are less materialistic, treat their men like gold, and highly prize marriage?

Thirdly, just how intimate are you with "South America?" Do you think there are no feminist, marriage-hating, independent, career-oriented women there who are materialistic, shallow, want men to provide everything so they can shop and stay at home and raise the kids? If you do, you are kidding yourself. Surely you have never heard of South American immigrant women who get themselves WASP or Irish or Italian-American boyfriends in hopes of securing green cards and then, marriages here so that they needn't work. Oh, did I also emphasize a lot of these South American women are very vain, shallow, and uneducated and are in some cases barely more than a walking, talking, and breathing vagina?

Fourthly, you DO know that there are career-oriented women in all societies as well as more "traditional" women as well, do you not?

Just how well-traveled are you? How many languages do you speak? How many non-North American women have you dated, or befriended, or even known? Have you ever lived outside North America? And, assuming you're American, have you even been outside the USA? Have you ever visited Canada or Mexico or lived in either one?

I know this post is a bit aggressive, but posts like yours here on this forum are so maddeningly annoying and silly in their blanket coloration of people from an entire CONTINENT - never mention a country, or state, or city, but CONTINENT! ... that I have been shaking my head and smirking the whole times as I wrote this.

In the end, dude, it shouldn't matter where a woman is from. If she and you match, are happy together, and love each other, that's all that is important.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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I really get tired of blanket statements about any one group of people, as if we should assume that just because some are this way, everyone else from that area must be that way too.
 
Old 05-09-2010, 04:33 PM
 
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I think the reason why they are so many single women is that they ask too much. Their expectations are too High.

The reason that makes me think that is that I come from a South american background and my dad has 10 brothers and sisters and my mom too. Big Family.

My aunts from my moms side married men from north america (Canada) and i asked them how it happened. The overall story that they told me is that they got tired of the over demands of many north american Women they dated until they started dating women from other nationalities. One of my uncles is married to a russian woman.

From what is see about South American woman is that they put Family before work, They have beauty issues (need to be perfect even after they marry), More traditional values (more feminine don't mind letting the man lead as long as they have a say), Love to cook, are less materialistic, value marriage and treat men better.

For the North i'll let you be your own judge...

If you can provide a better detail about dating Foreign women Vs American woman add your reasons or Opinions on the matter...
It's not just women here, it's pretty much the same for all western women across the anglosphere. They expect Mr Perfect, not hope for him, but expect him, to come along and sweep them off their feet. It's been drilled into their heads since they were little girls with Disney movies and bedtime stories. Coupled with decades of programming by the media it's just a given that they deserve the best and the world should cater to them in a sense, aka entitlement attitude/princess mentality. The women who weren't raised like this are few and far between these days.

I was reading this earlier and it touches on what I think we're all talking about here. Cause and effect, namely personal responsibility, have been minimized in today's culture.

http://www.the-spearhead.com/2010/05...-is-ascendant/


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As Dan Quayle noted:

The inter-generational poverty that troubles us so much today is predominantly a poverty of values. Our inner cities are filled with children having children; with people who have not been able to take advantage of educational opportunities; with people who are dependent on drugs or the narcotic of welfare. To be sure, many people in the ghettos struggle very hard against these tides — and sometimes win. But too many feel they have no hope and nothing to lose. This poverty is, again, fundamentally a poverty of values.

But the underclass seems to be a new phenomenon. It is a group whose members are dependent on welfare for very long stretches, and whose men are often drawn into lives of crime. There is far too little upward mobility, because the underclass is disconnected from the rules of American society. And these problems have, unfortunately, been particularly acute for black Americans.

Let me share with you a few statistics on the difference between black poverty in particular in the 1960s and now.

* In 1967, 68 percent of black families were headed by married couples. In 1991, only 48 percent of black families were headed by both a husband and wife.

* In 1965, the illegitimacy rate among black families was 28 percent. In 1989, 65 percent — two thirds — of all black children were born to never-married mothers.

* In 1951 9.2 percent of black youth between 16-19 were unemployed. In 1965, it was 23 percent. In 1980, it was 35 percent. By 1989, the number had declined slightly, but was still 32 percent.

* The leading cause of death of young black males today is homicide.

It would be overly simplistic to blame this social breakdown on the programs of the Great Society alone. It would be absolutely wrong to blame it on the growth and success most Americans enjoyed during the 1980s. Rather, we are in large measure reaping the whirlwind of decades of changes in social mores.


Of course, these changes in social mores didn’t “just happen.”

Unless we change the basic rules of society in our inner cities, we cannot expect anything else to change.


Indeed.

Instead of changing the basic rules of society in our inner cities, we’ve adopted them society-wide, which is precisely why we are now living through the decline of Western Civilization and entering into a Brave New World Order: Global Socialism Based on the Matriarchal family model; controlled and manipulated by dependence on the Ruling Elite.

For the government, transforming underclass culture means that our policies and programs must create a different incentive system. Our policies must be premised on, and must reinforce, values such as: family, hard work, integrity and personal responsibility.

But that would be racist, sexist and homophobic!

I think we can all agree that government’s first obligation is to maintain order. We are a nation of laws, not looting. If a single mother raising her children in the ghetto has to worry about drive-by shootings, drug deals, or whether her children will join gangs and die violently, her difficult tasks becomes impossible.

Safety is absolutely necessary. But it’s not sufficient. Our urban strategy is to empower the poor by giving them control over their lives. Empowering the poor will strengthen families. And right now, the failure of our families is hurting America deeply. When families fail, society fails. The anarchy and lack of structure in our inner cities are testament to how quickly civilization falls apart when the family foundation cracks. Children need love and discipline. They need mothers and fathers. A welfare check is not a husband. The state is not a father. It is from parents that children learn how to behave in society; it is from parents above all that children come to understand values and themselves as men and women, mothers and fathers.

And for those concerned about children growing up in poverty, we should know this: Marriage is probably the best anti-poverty program of all. Among families headed by married couples today, there is a poverty rate of 5.7 percent. But 33.4 percent of families headed by a single mother are in poverty today.

The system perpetuates itself as these young men father children whom they have no intention of caring for, by women whose welfare checks support them. Teenage girls, mired in the same hopelessness, lack sufficient motive to say no to this trap.
In other words much of the modern social decay we're now witnessing, including the princess mentality/entitlement attitude of wester women, are symptoms of Matriarchy. It's hard to believe he gave that speech nearly 2 decades ago. As the Editor's note points out, who would have guessed then that Quayle was ahead of his time regarding the breakdown in moral standards as "the greatest crisis facing America." The events of the last 20 years have proven him correct with the problems of inner cities going mainstream with fatherless children and unwed mothers burdoning the system with their want want want, me me me attitude, and generations of thugs and drug addicts flooding our streets and prison system. All thanks the Matriarchy. You go grrrl!

http://www.mfc.org/pfn/95-12/quayle.html (broken link)

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