It's the 21st Century, but do women still want MANLY MEN? (how to, feeling)

[CESpeed]

Hunting for food is barely acceptable to me. I don't like it but I understand why it's important. Hunting for sport is gross disgusting and barbaric and if I met someone who liked to hunt just for the "thrill of the kill" and keeping trophies, I would run because I wouldn't want to be around when he decided hunting humans is more fun.

As for the rest of the "guy stuff" I would be totally cool with that. In fact, I moved from L.A. to Arkansas looking for a country boy.

[samston]

Hunting is immoral. oh no, i'm not a true man lol.

Hunting was a must for the reason there was no other way to get food. What did people 20,000 years ago know of agriculture or animal husbandry? Nobody needs to hunt now. I guess it's just how I think, I see life in terms of progression, and all actions leading to further actions.

[2RUGGED4YOU]

For example: How do you find your way out of the middle of a cornfield with no GPS or compass? It's simple, look up at the sun (preferably with sunglasses)LOL.... and see where it is at? The sun rises in the East and sets in the West, right? There ya go, pack that little tip into your oh-s*** grab bag for next time!

[Redisca]

Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner

Of course they do. No woman wants a scrawny wimp who can't defend himself and who can't protect his woman.

So you define a "manly" man as one who can beat another to a pulp with his bare hands, that's it? I guess Sir Winston Churchill was a real girl, then.

Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner

Having said this, if a man engages in certain "guy" activities, is it a turn-on or turn-off?

For the most part, I don't care. I'm not a controlling type. But I would be turned off by a man who engages in "guy" activities for the sole purpose of proving that he is "manly".

Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner

But what if, women, your man likes to, say, HUNT? Would that turn you off as "barbaric" or would that strike you as "cool?" That he may use crossbows or rifles to kill deer, hogs,turkeys, and skin them himself for food?

It depends what the purpose is. I have nothing against subsistence hunters, as long as I'm not the one having to do the skinning and the gutting.

Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner

I think a lot of women I know in my area, here right by NYC, would consider this "redneck" and even "barbaric." I don't see why. Man has hunted since the dawn of civilization. It was once an absolute must; now it's a sport, but it's also seen as a way to control wildlife.

Well, again, that depends. Certainly this does not describe all hunters, but periodically, I hear men say that they hunt because of the "danger" involved and that getting up close to death makes them feel like men. Quite honestly, sentiments like that make me queasy. Man may have hunted since the dawn of civilization, but today, hunters set out equipped with every conceivable gadget to make themselves safe and killing easier and more efficient -- and they do it, quite often, simply for the sake of killing. Modern weaponry, GPS, PLD's, cell phones -- all against what? A man who needs to shore up his flagging manhood by killing a stupid beast, while aided by the latest in space age technology, isn't relationship material in my book.

[boodhabunny]

So-called guy activities are just fine as long as a man doesn't expect me to like them too. My husband always wants me to go hang out with him while he fishes, but he never wants to go to museums or galleries with me.

I don't want to drag him to galleries when I know he doesn't want to go, but I am getting pretty tired of fish, especially since he always hints that it's "my turn" to clean them. I don't think so, buddy!

[M3 Mitch]

I have brought up Jose Ortega Y Gassat's Meditations on Hunting before in these discussions.

To paraphrase him, one does not hunt in order to kill, one kills in order to have hunted. (Probably works better in the original Spanish)

That said, for example quail for the most part experience a 90% die-off in the fall and winter, what the hunters don't get, (both human and other animal) mostly starve.

Urbanistas may not kill their own food, but, someone most certainly does the killing for them. About all you can have to eat without killing (macroscopic) organisms would be milk and honey.

All that said, there are certainly slob hunters out there, who "do it all wrong" on many levels. Drinking before/during the hunt, poor shooting, poor dressing of the game, (worst of which is to bring homes birds without dressing them for DW to process - unless she specifically buys into this, which would be very rare - unforgivable).

I guess some women value a "real man" more than others, and they value different "real man" attributes differently. But like Rugged says, if you are strong, handy, and have a working 4X4 truck, when the going gets tough, you get popular.

Slightly off topic but when I was single my favorite way to meet a girl, when I lucked into it, was a gal having car trouble. I could almost always get her going again, and, this frequently "got her going" as well.

[2RUGGED4YOU]

It should always be known that in rural areas, far more deer are killed on the highway by automobiles, starvation, disease and old age than any hunter will take.

[TheBeagleLady]

Originally Posted by 2RUGGED4YOU

For example: How do you find your way out of the middle of a cornfield with no GPS or compass? It's simple, look up at the sun (preferably with sunglasses)LOL.... and see where it is at? The sun rises in the East and sets in the West, right? There ya go, pack that little tip into your oh-s*** grab bag for next time!

I live in Nebraska. I can find my way out of a cornfield.

I like "manly men." If a guy likes to hunt I'm okay with that as long as he doesn't expect me to go with him. There will be no deer heads hanging on my wall, though!

[2RUGGED4YOU]

Originally Posted by dogwalker425

I live in Nebraska. I can find my way out of a cornfield.

I like "manly men." If a guy likes to hunt I'm okay with that as long as he doesn't expect me to go with him. There will be no deer heads hanging on my wall, though!

Most guys I know are cool with that. They don't expect their women to do it too if they don't want to.

[Mac_Muz]

I am outdoorsey, like go camping fior fun at -40 below for kicks. I can and do start fire with a bow drill.

I hunt with flintlocks for food, and use a lot more of the kill for many other things. basicly I use everything other that what ever's last meal was.

Don't believe me just ask.

I can weld, braze and have built a few thousand car and motor cycle engines.
I can build a house, wire and plumb it too. Whole deal cellar to roof.

Shopping for food consists of buying sour cream, cheese, milk, and eggs mainly. Some soda pop, and beer, but I plan to learn how to make beer.

I don't buy store bought food when I can buy them from a farm, and or grow my own. We are still eatting from last years harvest, and in spring the first harvest I get is maple sugar.

I harvest trees for fire wood and to create nature back from what man made here. This place was clear cut, then abandoned in 1930, so one kind of tree came to dominate. That is changing.

I could care aless what women want. The one I have wants me and she knew what I was when we met. She sure wouldn't have wanted to push the tiller today with the plow and it's wings on either.

I make a pretty good mule. She has never paid a carpenter for book sleves, or wooden cassets, and or paid a car mechanic a dime since she decided i was something she could live with.

We never fight, I am good to her, and I never ask if i can buy things i want. Mostly since my labor is valuable, I tell her order this and from who. She has more free time than I do, I make sure she does. She doesn't labor like I do and i make sure of that too.

Sometime there is a lesson in it. She will ask to give me a break doing something hard for me. I let have a go just so she understands how hard I am spending energy. Since the last venture with the tiller she hasn't asked to spell me again.

Wev'e been places where a threat has occured a few times, and then maybe I get Barbaric. I don't mind that since I feel alive in a land of the walking dead under threat. I guess city folks feel that upon sighting a Bear maybe.

2 weeks back I saw 8 bears... One charged us while walking in the drive way. I saw it, and understated "Oh here comes a bear."

Maybe I would care more about what women want if they were consistant, but so far all I have know were anything but that.

So I just do what I will do, and if a women can deal with that, then shes in. The one I have now is definately in...