Was dating easier in the 20th century? (wife, marriage, men)

[2RUGGED4YOU]

Was dating easier in the 20th century? Yes it was!

[calicali01]

Originally Posted by Redisca

I certainly appreciate the fact that I don't have to do laundry by hand.

Judging by your post around here you never liked to do laundry anyway so I don't believe that you really "appreciate it." REGARDLESS, women have this awesome convenience and it's still not enough to keep them happy.

Originally Posted by Redisca

... and live longer than ever before, too.

Sorry, I don't think living longer is worth it if I'm on 15 different overpriced medications with a stinky colonoscopy bag hanging out my side. I rather be dead and my money be used wisely by a young wipper snapper who is starting out his life.

Originally Posted by Redisca

Well -- that's certainly one way to make life simpler, don't you think? On a more serious note, the idea that people should be prevented from having contact with each other in order to reduce infidelity sounds ridiculous to me.

But you fail to understand the concept. People are only as faithful as their options.

Originally Posted by Redisca

That's a problem easily solved. If you don't want people to know about your business, don't make your business public. No one puts a gun to your head to open a Facebook account.

But you CAN'T stop people from posting all your business on the net where EVERYBODY can see it. TMZ built a BUSINESS out of doing just that!!!!

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Originally Posted by Redisca

In the Good Old Days, good were manufactured here by unconscionably underpaid workers (many of them children) working 10+ hours a day, 6-7 days a week. What's your point? Oh yeah, they were too busy to socialize, so I guess there was less infidelity.

You are taking it back to the turn of the century when laws were not in place to handel the situation in America. NOW; to avoid these laws, once again, companies move jobs over seas where no such laws are in place.

[NotARedneck]

Originally Posted by DavieJ89

My dad.....said it was easier to date back then

Was dating really easier in the 60s?

Yes, I think he was right but he change really occurred starting in the late 1960s but didn't get into full swing until the 1970s so its not just the 21st century that is different.

The change in the expectations of women occurred starting then and really hasn't changed that much since. Most young men can no linger live up to these unrealistic expectations and no matter what their real values as a human being, are largely cut out of the dating scene. Women like Redisca try to attribute this to such men being unworthy or abusers, but this is BS.

I've listened to a lot of the stories from my parent's generation and the one thing that is most apparent is that few of the men would have had much success today, yet they all had long and from what I can see, successful marriages. This contrasts sharply with their children, especially their daughters.

[mango tango]

Redisca has a very valid point, but there is more to it than just people longing for their days of youth (although that is true). Dating isn't just different - the whole world is different. Technology always has and always will change society and all of the aspects within it. Technology grants people convenience; it makes things easier. Even though I grew up with the internet, I still marvel at the fact that I can find nearly any piece of information I'm looking for within a few mere seconds. I think one of the main defining factors of dating in this century is that people have become pickier. We don't just want a good man/woman - we want our definition of perfect, which has become increasingly narrow. In our lives, we technically get everything we want, when we want - technology has done that for us. Why not apply the same mentality to dating? Look at online dating, for example. Instead of having to meet someone and get to know him/her, you can just prescreen people by logistics. In addition, there is this huge sense of entitlement. Everyone believes that they deserve Mr./Mrs Perfect.

[temptation001]

Originally Posted by DavieJ89

My dad and I had a conversation about this a few weeks ago. My dad was my age back in the mid 1960s (Im 20 now) and I told him that I wish I could have grown up in his day and he said "It was so much simpler back then, you would have had so much fun"

He also said it was easier to date back then

Was dating really easier in the 60s 70s 80s and maybe even the 90s as compared to the 21st century?

Your dad just likes the 60's cause everyone was having orgies back then. Some people still have them nowadays, but not like they used to back in the 60's.

[Ep-]

in talking to older people it seems like people were more social back then. since there were no internet or cell phones or IMs people had to go out to interact and actually be more friendly

one thing i was talking to my mom about was how when most girls want to break things off nowadays they just dont answer your calls anymore and ignore you. she was shocked that anyone would do this. i had the same conversation with a female friend my age and mentioned i always call to break things off, and she was shocked i would actually communicate that to someone rather then just ignore them. 2 completely different perspectives

[wanneroo]

Originally Posted by mango tango

Redisca has a very valid point, but there is more to it than just people longing for their days of youth (although that is true). Dating isn't just different - the whole world is different. Technology always has and always will change society and all of the aspects within it. Technology grants people convenience; it makes things easier. Even though I grew up with the internet, I still marvel at the fact that I can find nearly any piece of information I'm looking for within a few mere seconds. I think one of the main defining factors of dating in this century is that people have become pickier. We don't just want a good man/woman - we want our definition of perfect, which has become increasingly narrow. In our lives, we technically get everything we want, when we want - technology has done that for us. Why not apply the same mentality to dating? Look at online dating, for example. Instead of having to meet someone and get to know him/her, you can just prescreen people by logistics. In addition, there is this huge sense of entitlement. Everyone believes that they deserve Mr./Mrs Perfect.

On one hand with things like the internet and the ability to stay connected is an unbelievable advantage in our lives(don't know what I would do without it now) on the other hand, it's almost an overload of information.

With all of our technology gadgets, it has seemed to take away from some of the interpersonal connection with other people. When I was in high school, you actually had to go up and talk to a girl and build up a relationship that way. Now, even in the same room, kids don't talk but text one another instead.

[NotARedneck]

Originally Posted by Ep-

in talking to older people it seems like people were more social back then. since there were no internet or cell phones or IMs people had to go out to interact and actually be more friendly

one thing i was talking to my mom about was how when most girls want to break things off nowadays they just don't answer your calls anymore and ignore you. she was shocked that anyone would do this. i had the same conversation with a female friend my age and mentioned i always call to break things off, and she was shocked i would actually communicate that to someone rather then just ignore them. 2 completely different perspectives

That is an interesting point and it explains a lot about the change that happened in the late 60s. Women had it drilled into them that most men were no good, likely abusers and that if they were to get married, he had to be perfect and do something for them in a big way. Men who didn't make the cut, so to speak, were sub human and not worthy of even the most basic decencies. Since female sexuality became the new locust of power, those who controlled this could dictate on their terms.

Unfortunately, this attitude was never combined with any widespread discussion on what a good man is so we have a situation today where this is mostly defined by superficial attributes and the players and scumbags prosper.

[Whyte Byrd]

Originally Posted by NotARedneck

That is an interesting point and it explains a lot about the change that happened in the late 60s. Women had it drilled into them that most men were no good, likely abusers and that if they were to get married, he had to be perfect and do something for them in a big way. Men who didn't make the cut, so to speak, were sub human and not worthy of even the most basic decencies. Since female sexuality became the new locust of power, those who controlled this could dictate on their terms.

Unfortunately, this attitude was never combined with any widespread discussion on what a good man is so we have a situation today where this is mostly defined by superficial attributes and the players and scumbags prosper.

I still remember impressions I got as a kid for things adults did and said I don't get this one; I never remember anyone alluding to men being no good-Ever. It would definitely have made a lasting impression on me. I was ever the deep thinking kid. I'd have caught that one.

[DavieJ89]

Originally Posted by mango tango

In addition, there is this huge sense of entitlement. Everyone believes that they deserve Mr./Mrs Perfect.

Therein lies the biggest problem in dating today. The entitlement mentality is getting stronger by the day or so it seems. Its not just with women either, men have it as well

Mango please forgive me for generalizing about women here, but the same will be done for the men

*MOST* <<<keyword here<<< seem to want a man with money
*MOST* men seem to want a woman with a 36DD chest, coke bottle frame with 38 inch hips, and a HIGH sex drive.

Often times the "ideal" female figure is only accomplished through plastic surgery, look at Heidi Montag. She's gorgeous, but its almost a shame its fake. There are some naturally gorgeous women though, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder

I honestly think if people didnt hold others to such sky high standards, dating would be a lot more enjoyable and less of a chore. We all deserve the best for ourselves, but its not always about money or looks. Some women should realize the nice guy who makes $8.25 an hour and drives a Nissan Altima might be a much better catch then the jerk driving the new Camaro making $80k a year

Same goes for men, some need to realize the average looking girl may be much better for them then the blonde beauty queen who is most likely a total b*tch