Is there a main book of Paganism? (soul, Buddha, churches)

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by rayneinspain

FFS.

What is FFS? Foo Fighter Scream?

Originally Posted by rayneinspain

Concise Oxford Companion to the English Language | Date: 1998

CELTIC LANGUAGES – FREE CELTIC LANGUAGES Information | Encyclopedia.com: Find CELTIC LANGUAGES Research

I notice it is spelled "Celtic" more often than not throughout that article.

[rayneinspain]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

What is FFS? Foo Fighter Scream?




I notice it is spelled "Celtic" more often than not throughout that article.

"FFS" cannot be spelled out in this forum ("For **** Sake", an expression of extreme annoyance).

I've seen how you goaded the other poster and I was merely trying to be helpful and to offer references. It seems you are a troll out to annoy anyone and everyone. You've certainly annoyed me.

Fact remains that 'Kelt' has been used as an alternate spelling. I am not going to waste any more time looking up references (and yes, I did find more but never figured you'd refute, of all sources, OED, considered the definitive resource of the English language) and posting them to appease your stubborn nature.

Good day.

[Mark S.]

Originally Posted by rayneinspain

I've seen how you goaded the other poster

Sorry it came across that way. I didn't goad anyone. I kept asking why he was so insistent to spell it Keltic without explanation and then kept giving evasive non-answers.

Originally Posted by rayneinspain

You've certainly annoyed me.

Take a deep breath. Is arguing over spelling really worth getting worked up over? Take a chill pill, dude.

Originally Posted by rayneinspain

Fact remains that 'Kelt' has been used as an alternate spelling.

Sure. I never said it wasn't. But the accepted English spelling is Celtic. I simply questioned why Predos was wagging his finger in my face about it. It's really not a big deal. Chill, mon!

[accelerator]

Originally Posted by Trebek

Do you all Pagan's out there have one main book of Paganism, like the Christians have a bible? Is there a difference between Paganism and Wicca?

Thanks, just trying to gain understanding.

The writings of Hermes Trismegistus could be considered as being.. "main books".

Corpus Hemeticum.. and the Emerald Tablets.

They are classed as pagan.. but I wouldn't consider them required reading for all pagans.. which.. like christianity.. is divided up into many different beliefs.

There is a lot of mystery that surrounds such works.. like who really wrote them.. and when.. and where.

These writings are a mix of mystery.. wisdom.. myth.. symbolism and riddles.. etc

To understand such writings requires many repeated readings..

They are like the bible in this respect.

Not for those who read everything literally.

They are occult texts.

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A couple of extracts:

"Hermes: Hush, son! and understand what God, what Cosmos is, what is a life that cannot die, and what a life subject to dissolution.

Yea, understand the Cosmos is by God and in God; but Man by Cosmos and in Cosmos.

The source and limit and the constitution of all things is God. "

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"Exalt not thine heart above the children of men, lest it be brought lower than the dust.

“If you be great among men, be honoured for knowledge and gentleness.

If you seek to know the nature of a friend, ask not his companion, but pass a time alone with him. Debate with him, testing his heart by his words and his bearing.

That which goeth into the store-house must come forth, and the things that are thine must be shared with a friend.

Knowledge is regarded by the fool as ignorance, and the things that are profitable are to him hurtful. He liveth in death. It is therefore his food.

The wise man lets his heart overflow but keeps silent his mouth.”

Hermes Trismegistus

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If anyone wants to read further.. click..

Corpus-Hemeticum



Emerald-Tablets-Hermes

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[FredNotBob]

Originally Posted by Trebek

Do you all Pagan's out there have one main book of Paganism, like the Christians have a bible? Is there a difference between Paganism and Wicca?

Thanks, just trying to gain understanding.

Modern paganism has no 'holy book' or 'revealed word of the gods' by which we conduct our religious affairs -- many pagans think the idea of putting all of your faith in one single book is kind of silly.

That being said, most ancient pagans had no religious text, either -- but that wasn't because of any beliefs they may have held; it's really because there were no written texts in those times.

Many of the ancient religious traditions that now fall under the definition of 'pagan' held to an oral tradition, where rituals and methods of worship were passed down verbally. That's why most scholars consider modern pagan religious practices to be 'reconstructions': there were few, if any, written records of just what, exactly, they actually did back then.

(Oh, and Rayneinspain? I just looked at Mark S's post -- he asked a legitimate question ('What's your source?') and the only response he got was 'Years of study', without any clarification as to just what the other poster was studying. I learned in grade school that when you quote research, you always give the source of your information).

[Predos]

Originally Posted by Mark S.

Sorry it came across that way. I didn't goad anyone. I kept asking why he was so insistent to spell it Keltic without explanation and then kept giving evasive non-answers.Take a deep breath. Is arguing over spelling really worth getting worked up over? Take a chill pill, dude.*Sure. I never said it wasn't. But the accepted English spelling is Celtic. I simply questioned why Predos was wagging his finger in my face about it. It's really not a big deal. Chill, mon!

Your arguements are just plain invalid.* Why do you spell your name Mark as it was derived from Marcus?* That is the accepted spelling for generations, yet you insist on what you would term the wrong spelling and pronunciation of the name.* Does this make you feel good or are you going to "evade" the fact that it is a bastardized version of the original?* Or perhaps you should take your own advice and not worry about spelling, even if your arguement is only to make yourself feel good.

One additional comment: your intolerance of things you cannot control and the ways of others speaks volumns toward your own belief system

[ptsum]

Well, just a little humor here to break up the tension, I'm glad that my Native American belief was not listed among the pagan beliefs.......we of the New (Ancient)World were considered savages and yet our calendars are among the most accurate,even today...

[Magnulus]

Alot of "Pagan" cultures did write down their beliefs, for instance the Egyptians wrote down alot of their practices, so did the Aztecs and Mayans. And of course, the Romans and Greeks. But Northern Europeans and Celts were mostly illiterate before Christianity arrived. The stories were passed down orally but some of the actual rituals were secret. The same is true with the Slavs, who also worshipped many gods- they had no writing system of their own really.

Incidentally, civilizations like the Aztecs had relatively sophisticated philosophies and theologies that are only hinted at in their writings. It is possible that Aztec philosophy was bordering on the complexity of the Hindu and Greek philosophers of 2,000 years ago, when Cortez destroyed them. They were not all just illiterate "pagans".

[Gway614]

Originally Posted by Virote

those who aren't of the Christian faith get labeled pagans...so no there isn't one book.

Hey please dont say that.
i am a pagan.
you are very wrong.
also Paganism was the first relgion ever so yeah...

[FredNotBob]

Originally Posted by Gway614

Hey please dont say that.
i am a pagan.
you are very wrong.
also Paganism was the first relgion ever so yeah...

*Grins*

Actually, in general, paganism as a whole has no 'holy book' -- certain pagan paths may have their own rules of conduct, but general Paganism has no central text of that kind.