Christian & Jew unity? (church, Revelation, Muslims, bible)

[Miss Blue]

As long as individuals, all the way up to different religions and cultures rely on their own interpretation of their particular bible to cover their sins and greed, there will be wars and hate..Isn't that the reason some religions long for the coming of Christ, whether they believe he is coming to gather them to take to heaven or if he is coming to set up his Kingdom on earth. We all long for a utopia but simply stated "It aint gonna happen"..Not yet

[OKE]

Hi SDbreaux,

For someone to blame the Jewish people for the crucifixion of Christ only means that they do not understand the gospel.

Jesus Christ came as The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. The main reason Christ came here was to go to the cross.

It was no accident that it happened during the Jewish Passover.

You can go all the way back to the beginning after Adam and Eve sinned in the garden of Eden.

God clothed them with animal skins to cover their nakedness.

In order to have animal skins, blood had to be shed. A foreshadow of the Supreme Sacrifice that would be offered from the heart of God in Christ Jesus upon Calvary’s Cross.

Later on when the children of Israel were in bondage to Egypt and God called Moses to lead them from their captivity, God instructed them to put the blood of a lamb over their door posts and lintel and they would be spared.
Again, another foreshadow of the Supreme Sacrifice of Christ that would later be fulfilled at Calvary.

Later on after leaving Egypt when the high priest would offer an offering for the sin of the people in the Holy of Holies in the Tabernacle in The Wilderness, blood was shed.

All of these were a foreshadow of the Supreme Sacrifice that would be made by Christ.

So no one can rightly blame the Jewish people, because the Blood of Jesus The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world was shed for the entire world. He came here for that reason.

So we cannot blame the Jewish people for this, the blame for that sin rests upon us all.

Sin is not the fault of one people, for the Bible says we have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

But for those who are Born Again, though our sin be as scarlet it has been made whiter than snow says Isaiah the prophet.

The 1st time Jesus came here, He came as The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world.

When Jesus Christ return’s He will come as The Lion of The Tribe of Judah.

OKE

[OKE]

Concerning the Temple Mount in Jerusalem that belongs to the Jewish people.

That area is Mount Moriah where Abraham went to with his son Isaac when God tested his faith.

That is the area where King David built his city.

That is the area where King Solomon built The Temple which housed the Ark of The Covenant.

It is their land.

The muslim’s holy book the koran never once mentions the name Jerusalem.

Not one place is the name Jerusalem found in their koran.

And the muslim prophet mohammad took the story from the Bible about Abraham and Isaac and he replaced Isaac with Ishmael. That is plagiarism.

That land was given to the Jewish people by God.

The Bible is their deed to that land.

And the Bible as history goes back to the creation of the heavens and the earth and it the oldest account of that event.

OKE

[Padgett2]

those are traditions in the Jewish and Christian histories as recounted in the Jewish and Christian scriptures.

Unfortunatly, others feel that since their people LIVED on that land for centuries that they also have rights to it's title. And these people are not impressed by what's in the King James Version of the bible.

I feel for the sincere Jews that feel so much devotion to their homeland ties. It's something that they feel very deeply. But everytime two steps forward are taken to make things better and more peaceful, it seems that there will be a faction that is determined not to give an inch and those two steps forward becomes three steps backward.

We can only hope that something can be done to help both sides see the need to work something out.

[jeffncandace]

Originally Posted by OKE

Hi SDbreaux,

For someone to blame the Jewish people for the crucifixion of Christ only means that they do not understand the gospel.

Jesus Christ came as The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. The main reason Christ came here was to go to the cross.

It was no accident that it happened during the Jewish Passover.

Wow! Very true statement. Also, many would do well to keep in mind that Jesus Himself WAS A JEW!

And I've always felt that the Jewish people have more of a right to Jerusalem and the Holy Land. They were there first, founded the city, and besides all that they are trying to exist in a part of the world surrounded by Arabs, who hate them, and who geographically hold the vast majority of that part of the word--Israel is a sliver in comparison!

[SDBreaux]

Thanks for the responses from everyone.

What is the general feeling about Islam from people here, including non-Christians? Is it a religion to be feared or embraced? I believe in freedom of religion and I respect Muslim's in my community, but do they feel the same way? As they grow in numbers within the states, will they show disrespect for the U.S. constitution and impost their religious law into our rights? It seems to me when there is a high concentration of Muslim's they impose laws to make a community mirror their beliefs.

In my community, there is a disconnect between Muslim's and Christian's. I am worried many Muslim's are coming to America with little intent to embrace the American constitution. Instead of learning to adapt to our culture, they bring their own. Isn't that dangerous, and isn't this the same thing that happened to Rome when Christian's came to convert instead of adapt?

I don't want my grand children to be forced to obey Muslim law. I want them to choose whatever belief they want.

[OKE]

The Holy Scriptures that record the deed whereby God gave the Jewish people the land of Israel is much older than any King James Bible from 1611.

It is far older than even the very 1st English Bible translated "by hand" by John Wycliffe in 1385, as the Gutenberg printing press had not yet been invented.

We are talking about the Ancient Jewish Tanakh, the Hebrew Scriptures.

It is within those ancient writings where you find God giving that land to the Jewish people.

There was no new testament back then, and there was no koran back then. There was The Tanakh, The Hebrew Bible.

And God gave that land to Abraham's descendents, the Jewish people forever.

The Hebrew Scriptures are the oldest account of the creation of the heavens and the earth.

There was no King James back then, there was no England back then, and there was no America back then when God gave that land to the Hebrews.

Jesus was a Jew, and He never stopped being a Jew, even though His disciples began being called Christians in Acts 11:25,26.

That land belongs to the Jewish people.

OKE

[SDBreaux]

Originally Posted by OKE

The Holy Scriptures that record the deed whereby God gave the Jewish people the land of Israel is much older than any King James Bible from 1611.

It is far older than even the very 1st English Bible translated "by hand" by John Wycliffe in 1385, as the Gutenberg printing press had not yet been invented.

We are talking about the Ancient Jewish Tanakh, the Hebrew Scriptures.

It is within those ancient writings where you find God giving that land to the Jewish people.

There was no new testament back then, and there was no koran back then. There was The Tanakh, The Hebrew Bible.

And God gave that land to Abraham's descendents, the Jewish people forever.

The Hebrew Scriptures are the oldest account of the creation of the heavens and the earth.

There was no King James back then, there was no England back then, and there was no America back then when God gave that land to the Hebrews.

Jesus was a Jew, and He never stopped being a Jew, even though His disciples began being called Christians in Acts 11:25,26.

That land belongs to the Jewish people.

OKE

That's what I thought! Islam is too new for me to take it seriously, at least spiritually. I just can't imagine believing Islam is "truth" when it was formed after Christianity, also a religion [Christianity] that was formed after Jewish teachings. I also can't imagine letting the Muslim's continue believing they are entitled to the holy land when they weren't a religion for thousands of years after the land was already promised to the Jews.

[TexasNick]

Islam was formed after Christianity? Wow, that's interesting...then it further validates some things I've been thinking about. Guess I gotta do some more studying.

[SDBreaux]

Originally Posted by TexasNick

Islam was formed after Christianity? Wow, that's interesting...then it further validates some things I've been thinking about. Guess I gotta do some more studying.

Yeah, Islam has been around only 1300-1500 years (not sure the specific time), Christianity has been around 2000-2020 years, and apparently Judaism formed 1200 BCE. Jew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm going to do some research on Islam. It's strange to me that Islam is considered a credible faith considering the late appearance. There has to be a reasonable reason for this (I hope).