Christian & Jew unity? (suicide, gospels, Israel, Isaac)

[OKE]

The muslim "sharia law" does not teach assimilation, it teaches destroy the infidel. An infidel is what a muslim calls a non muslim.

[Padgett2]

I guess then we will all agree that since the Jews where there first, then the Native Americans should claim all the USA.

Who will be the first to say that we should give up our homes and return everything to them? After all, those First Americans also have traditions that date back much farther than Phymouth Rock.

I am not trying to say that the Jews don't belong there. I am merely trying to show why the other side feels as they do. They aren't influenced by the same scriptures that we read.

[dojilynn]

I may not agree with Muslim teaching, but I find it hard to understand why they are not a valid religion because they were founded about 500 years after Christianity.

[SDBreaux]

Originally Posted by dojilynn

I may not agree with Muslim teaching, but I find it hard to understand why they are not a valid religion because they were founded about 500 years after Christianity.

I wasn't speaking for other people. I've questions Christianity and even Judaism before because they weren't the "first" religions. To me, that told me it was a made-up religion. Isn't Hinduism the first organized religion?

For a long time I held the belief that mankind uses religion to make themselves "feel better" and to explain things they could not understand. It's easy to wonder how a society of science can believe in prehistoric religions.

That said, I don't consider Islam a worthy root from Abraham. It's just as much "man-made" to me as, say, Scientology; people who came along and decided to organize their own beliefs.

Yeah - same could be said about Christianity, too, and it's likely.

[Sgoldie]

Re your statement - Christianity has blamed the Jews for the death of Jesus.
I think you might find that the jewish take on this is that it's yet another incident of non-jews killing jews.

If you look at it from the perspective of a country (the israel of old) whose streets are patrolled by soldiers from another country you will see what I mean. For instance, if chinese soldiers were in the US and in charge of police action and order, who then would be in control of the country, the chinese or the US? I think the answer is apparent. It's tempting when you're compiling history (the Romans new testament) not to blame yourself even if it was in the past.

Zionism isn't limited to jews. Anyone who wants to see the survival of a jewish state is a zionist and most jews are, along with others. The settlements are an attempt to displace local arab populations, who had often been nomatic, in order to gain jerusalem as israels traditional capital. The reason israel wants to see a separate state for palestinians is because their much higher birthrate would turn israel into an arab state in no time.

What I can't see happening is the rebuilding of the temple without causing a world war. Some people say the construction will usher in the messiah whereas I think it must be the messiah who comes first to command it.

[OKE]

Padgett2 said, "I guess then we will all agree that since the Jews where there first, then the Native Americans should claim all the USA."

Not all will agree that since the Jews were in Israel first, that the Americans should give back this country to the American Indian Tribes.

However, everyone born in America is a Native American.

But NOT all Native American's are American Indian.

There is a difference.

And the answer can be different depending on who you ask the question.

The term Native American was created by the federal government in order to lump all the Indian Tribes together as a further attempt assimilate them to a point where they would no longer exist.

The federal government also created other non truths such as the Bering Straight Theory, and Manifest Destiny to justify their theft of this land.

But with the influx of illegal aliens from the south, and the muslims who refuse to assimilate, but choose to destroy all who do not convert, this country is buckling at the foundation. The muslims have already completely taken over Deerborn Michigan, and most likely many other areas I don't know of.

This week Bush was in canada with the president of mexico as they continue to work out plans to open the trade route that will connect mexico with canada. When this happens the US borders will no longer exist.

Then canada, America and mexico will become like europe, and they will implement the Amerodollar as our currency.

These are strange times we are living in.

I believe these are the days that Jesus called The Beginning of Sorrows in Matthew 24 that will eventually lead us into the 7 Year Tribulation spoken of in the last book of the New Testament, Revelation.

A new Temple will be built in Jerusalem.

They have everything all ready to fill it just as described in the Hebrew Scriptures.

And a unidentified group of Jews have the original Ark of The Covenant that will be returned into The Holy of Holies of the new Temple on The Temple Mount.

Hold onto your seats cause this ride isn't over yet.

OKE

[jeffncandace]

Hinduism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hindusim is the world's oldest organized religion, but I believe the worship of nature preceded that.

[OKE]

If you believe that the Holy Bible is The Word of God given to humanity as I believe it is, then there is where you find the very 1st religion.

[TexasNick]

I've heard it been said before that Christianity is NOT a religion--it's a personal relationship with Christ as one loves their own mother, etc. Catholicism is a religion, for example . Jesus was against organized religion--remember he banished them from the temple. The crusades were Catholics, not Christians.

[OKE]

TexasNick said, "I've heard it been said before that Christianity is NOT a religion--it's a personal relationship with Christ as one loves their own mother, etc. Catholicism is a religion, for example . Jesus was against organized religion--remember he banished them from the temple. The crusades were Catholics, not Christians."

Hi Texas Nick,

The meaning of the word "religion" as you are using it, took on today's negative meaning during The Jesus Revolution in California during the late
60's and into the early to late 70's.

It was a time when many of the hippie's were going into the direction of what would later be called the "new age" while many others found Jesus Christ and became what has been termed The Jesus Revolution.

It was during The Jesus Revolution that the word "religion" took on a new meaning by the hippies turned Jesus Freak.

They gave it this new meaning because they saw the hypocrisy in the structured systems of what had been called the church, and they did not want to be like them, therefore the word "religion" became a negative word, and the word "relationship" replaced the word "religion."

The Jesus Movement is where Calvary Chapel was born, and Jesus Rock Music by people like Larry Norman and Randy Stonehill that eventually evolved in what is now called comtemporary Christian music.

So when you use that word "religion" as you just did, I felt compelled to tell you how it came to have the current meaning it now has.

OKE