Christian & Jew unity?

[illinoisjustice]

Originally Posted by Ilovejazz

A few facts, which apparently few realize today. Jews have always lived in the land. After WWII, nearly 800,000 Jewish Arabs were forced out of their homes. Countless others in Europe, returning to their homes after miraculously surviving the Holocaust, were either forced out or KILLED.

Nearly 80% of Palestine became a Muslim nation (Jordan) in the early 1920s. The tiny part left was to be divided up between a Palestinian state and a Jewish state right after WWII. The Muslim Arabs refused. They wanted domination of the entire Middle East. Israel was declared a nation by the United Nations. Immediately after, many of the Arab Muslims living there were told by other Arab nations to leave Israel because the other Arab nations surrounding Israel were going to attack Israel. And they did.

The ONLY reason there is a Middle East conflict is that the Arabs hung around the refugee camps and did not move on. They were much more valuable as pawns, and history has made them the ultimate victims. However, more Jews were displaced after WWII, and they never been allowed back into their homes.

Ok, it was said that you are entitled to your own opinion, but sure you are not entitled to your own facts. When you say 800,000 Jews lived in that land, it appears that you mean they lived in historical Palestine and they got kicked out. of course that is not true. a lot of jews lived in Arab lands (still do by the way), and after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, some decided to leave, either because they did not feel comfortable living among Arabs with all the anti Israel sentiment, or because they wanted to immigrate to Palestine/Israel, to live in the new Jewish homeland, where they are a majority.

to compare these Palestinians kicked out of their homes at gun point, and threatened with massacres such as Deir Yaseen, to those who willingly left their homes in other Arab lands because they did not feel comfortable is a joke. I also don't see the logic of your argument, so if some Jews owned houses and property say in Egypt, Morocco or Yemen, that somehow gives them ownership of the country. Jews were a minority in all Arab communities, never exceeding 5% at best. How does that equate to displacing a whole nation and taking over its lands, beats me.

check the records and you will see that prior to the British mandate of Palestine Jews were 6% of the population of Palestine and owned 3% of the land.

your claim that 80% of Palestine is now Jordan, is another joke, it ranks high up there with other Zionist claims including that Israel was”a land with no people to a people with no land.”

really, thank god for the internet.

[illinoisjustice]

Originally Posted by Ilovejazz

They left on their own accord and then attacked their own country! And Jews were forced out of Arab countries, never allowed to return. Yet, the Arab propaganda machine has successfully managed to make Arabs the "victims." It's embarrassing that people accept the surface and don't dig deeper to find out just what really happened.

Israel has offered numerous extremely generous peace offers, and the Arabs have never even made a counter-offer. Nothing seems to be acceptable to them with the exception of annihilation of Israel and Jews.

OMG cannot believe how much misinformation there is in one paragraph.

Palestinians left on their own accord!!!!!! did you ever hear of Deir Yaseen, Bahr el Baqar and the sorts? Do you really think that someone who owns a house, farm, property would just leave it on his own accord? Do you actually believe what you are saying?

"Israel has offered numerous extremely generous peace offers, and the Arabs have never even made a counter-offer. Nothing seems to be acceptable to them with the exception of annihilation of Israel and Jews."

Really, could you just tell me how do these Arabs with their inferior weapons, and no air force to speak of, let alone them busy oppressing their own people are planning on the annihilation of Israel and Jews. Don’t you think Israel with its 4th strongest military, unconditional support from the US and the west, and the fact that they own a little something called nuclear weapons, all 200 warheads of them, are more than capable of striking at all Arab countries combined?

Did you hear of something called the Arab Peace Initiative, it is the most generous Arab offer as to date. Full Israeli withdrawal from Palestinian lands occupied in 1967 for full normalization with the Jewish state. that was 6 years ago; they are still waiting on Israel for a positive reply. an initiative by the way offered by all heads of states of all Arab countries, yet Israel still says no to it.

what is funny is that all your arguments are not original. I don't think they are your own words; it is more like you have been taught to recite these things and you just do. I’m not talking about the ideas, but rather the composition of the statements itself. typical Zionist methodology, make big statements, using half truths, and hope most people are either dumb enough or not interested to raise questions or dig deep.

[njkate]

If I ruled the world..lol..Jerusalem would be a neutral sacred place with no one claiming ownership.
It's sacred to Jews, Christians & Muslims!
I would love to visit one day but alas in my lifetime it will never be entirely safe.