Heaven and Hell dont Exist (souls, spirits, ghost, reincarnation)

[Muhnay]

Think about it.. your soul is made up of energy, it is not carbon based like your body. It does not need to eat, sleep, or any of the stuff your body does. It can not be hurt by anything physical or be rewarded by anything physical. So the description of both Heaven and Hell are man made delusions to either A: cause you fear into doing what it is they want, or B: Make you think you'll be rewarded by doing what they want.

What is the opposite of Death? Some of you would say life but thats wrong.. its Birth. Life is what you do between those two things. So when you Die there is either nothing, or something else.. maybe even unlife? Would explain ghost, spirits, reincarnation, and many other things Christians have a hard time excepting. Maybe there is a form of Heaven and Hell but I don't think we can comprehend it at this time... and if so, I am sure its self induced from your experiances in life.

I got done reading a book I thought was clever.. It was about Angels.. there were 3 types.. Good, Evil and undecided. Guess who the 3rd choice was.. yep humans, here on earth to pick a side. Was a good book. And have you noticed though most religions there is this connection with 3? START MIDDLE END. FATHER SON HOLY-SPIRIT, 3. EARTH, SKY, WATER, 3. BODY, SOUL, MIND, 3. just as a few examples. Just something to think about..

[Tricky D]

Heaven and hell do exist, but only in your mind. If your mind is in hell, your actions will manifest this in the material world. And if your mind is in heaven your actions will manifest this too.

The mind is its own place, and in itself can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven.
John Milton
English poet (1608 - 1674)

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[Timothylogan3]

ofcourse they exist, where have you been? i think where you getting your story wrong is the part about the soul being made up of energy, this is not so.

[Padgett2]

Originally Posted by Timothylogan3

ofcourse they exist, where have you been? i think where you getting your story wrong is the part about the soul being made up of energy, this is not so.

Are you sure that it's not so? No one has ever defined what a soul is. And as far as what happens after a person is truly dead, we don't know that either.

Those "near death experiences" aren't from people that are stone cold dead. The heart can stop, the lungs quit functioning, the blood stop flowing, but until the brain, with all it's ability to imagine wonderous things, ceases to work, death isn't complete. No one has described what happens then. And they never will. We can imagine, pretend, and speculate all we want to. It won't make it so.

[I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA]

I stay with my belief in God and His word which says there is a hell and Heaven and Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

[noland123]

Originally Posted by I LOVE NORTH CAROLINA

I stay with my belief in God and His word which says there is a hell and Heaven and Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

I concur with you 100% ILNC.

[songinthewind7]

Originally Posted by Timothylogan3

ofcourse they exist, where have you been? i think where you getting your story wrong is the part about the soul being made up of energy, this is not so.

Explain what you mean.

[Timothylogan3]

soul is GOD BREATHED, God gave part of himself in creating man. and not only that the soul of man is part of a whole. it is not as you think. the soul is forever part of the other two, they are one and the same, and all three belong to god, for they are of him, this is his image. i talk of what i know, there is more to it than you think brother. God is not like you my friend, dont think you, a grain of sand, born yesterday, can challenge him, the ancient of days? can you create a blade of grass? no mere man can ever explain these great mystries.

[Fleet]

Originally Posted by Padgett2

Those "near death experiences" aren't from people that are stone cold dead. The heart can stop, the lungs quit functioning, the blood stop flowing, but until the brain, with all it's ability to imagine wonderous things, ceases to work, death isn't complete. No one has described what happens then. And they never will. We can imagine, pretend, and speculate all we want to. It won't make it so.

That's exactly why they are called NEAR death experiences.
A person doesn't have to die to visit the afterlife.

[Padgett2]

Originally Posted by Timothylogan3

soul is GOD BREATHED, God gave part of himself in creating man. and not only that the soul of man is part of a whole. it is not as you think. the soul is forever part of the other two, they are one and the same, and all three belong to god, for they are of him, this is his image.

So the souls of the serial killers, the child abusers, the pedophiles, even those that worship Allah, or or some other deity, are all part of the Christian God and are in his image. Right?