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10-22-2007, 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ParkTwain
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"Murder" means killing for an unjustifiable purpose. There were many justifiable reasons for taking a life: self-defense, warfare, religious sacrifices, punishment for certain social and religious infractions (blasphemy), etc.
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 In that case I find taking a life only justifiable in self-defence, the execution of serial killers, serial murderers and serial paedophiles.
And when you take your own life.
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10-22-2007, 12:58 AM
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i dont agree with execution, because, we therein become essentially the same as the killers/rapists/exhibitionists/atheists(only kidding). self- defense, is different, seeing as how it involves conflicting wills.
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10-22-2007, 01:10 AM
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Proponents of capital punishment believe that it is a case of justifiable killing, as is personal self-defense.
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10-22-2007, 01:23 AM
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self-defense and capital punishment dont even belong on the same block, im sorry but killing is something that is wholly brutal, and the sacred Laws we rely on for intercession, in my opinion, require a slightly different makeup. mediatated killing dosent seem right at all. long drawn out mediatation on ones crime might work as a more effective detterrant, because as we can see this eye for an eye policy is leaving the Medusa we call the judicial system needing a very fit Labrador.
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10-22-2007, 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeoftheday
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long drawn out mediatation on ones crime might work as a more effective detterrant, because as we can see this eye for an eye policy is leaving the Medusa we call the judicial system needing a very fit Labrador.
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I assume that you either believe that serial criminals are sane or that every mental illness can be cured.
Let’s say we turn a reformed serial rapist who has served his time back into society. He did his time etc, but somehow can't control his urges or resist temptation and rapes again.
 Who’s to blame? The rapist for being what he is or society for believing that he is 'cured' and/ or should be released back into society?
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10-22-2007, 01:45 AM
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just to adjust the clearness of my statement, i never said it would be a grand old plan to release those who commmited crimes against humanity.
Regardless, i do understand your point, people who are serial killers with mental illness', should be killed. Granted, they dont have to eat the food they are fed, nor do they have to shower.
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10-22-2007, 02:02 AM
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Granted, they dont have to eat the food they are fed, nor do they have to shower.
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I don't care about that.
All I want is to stop the cycle.
Are you aware that many rapists and paedophiles have been victims themselves of the crime they are now committing?
So if we don't stop serial crimes at the source they'll keep reoccurring.
 If a serial crime acts like a disease we then should treat it like one.
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10-22-2007, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeofthedayI don't care about that.
All I want is to stop the cycle.
Are you aware that many rapists and paedophiles have been victims themselves of the crime they are now committing?
So if we don't stop serial crimes at the source they'll keep reoccurring.
 If a serial crime acts like a disease we then should treat it like one.
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what is the source? and how will the death penalty prevent this?
i feel you frustration, i really do.
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10-22-2007, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by eyeoftheday Why? You don't believe me?
 If not than common sense is my source.
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10-22-2007, 02:14 PM
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''So if we don't stop serial crimes at the source they'll keep reoccurring." - Tricky D
i do believe there is a source, but i was asking you to explain yourself further.
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