Would you kill for God? (Earth, divine, children, choices)

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by eyeoftheday

i do believe there is a source, but i was asking you to explain yourself further.

Oh, sorry. I thought you where asking for my source of information.

The source would be the first serial rapist or serial paedophile.
His victims have the potential to become serial predators themselves.
And they can create more predators, who can create more etc.
So when you catch one who has committed a very serious offence you exterminate him before he has the chance to create more victims.
I compare serial predators with an oil spill that slowly spreads out and contaminates the whole area. The sooner you clean it up the better.
Before it becomes a permanent stain.

[Magnum Mike]

Originally Posted by JerZ

This is an interesting answer because if God is really all-knowing, all-seeing, etc., then he would have already known whether Abraham was an obedient man or not. He wouldn't have to test him.

Yes God knows everything, and Abraham was just a man and he didn't know that God was only testing his obedience.

[Lior Arel]

Originally Posted by Magnum Mike

Yes God knows everything, and Abraham was just a man and he didn't know that God was only testing his obedience.

If God knows everything why was he testing Abraham? He should already have known the outcome?

Seriously, no need to answer my questions, I just loved the irony in that once sentance.

[satanoid]

God was trying to prove a point to the devil, for some inexplicable reason.

[eyeoftheday]

Originally Posted by victorytampa

If God knows everything why was he testing Abraham? He should already have known the outcome?

Seriously, no need to answer my questions, I just loved the irony in that once sentance.

(I shall start this sentence with) Because, like you, abraham has free will, you should use it more and stop being so predictable.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by eyeoftheday

(I shall start this sentence with) Because, like you, abraham has free will, you should use it more and stop being so predictable.

In that case was God being insecure about is own abilies, or because he doubted Abraham?

[eyeoftheday]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Oh, sorry. I thought you where asking for my source of information.

The source would be the first serial rapist or serial paedophile.
His victims have the potential to become serial predators themselves.
And they can create more predators, who can create more etc.
So when you catch one who has committed a very serious offence you exterminate him before he has the chance to create more victims.
I compare serial predators with an oil spill that slowly spreads out and contaminates the whole area. The sooner you clean it up the better.
Before it becomes a permanent stain.

we aren't roaches, we are human beings damn it. you cant just exterminate your problems away, you have to lock them up in jails for the rest of thier life. capital punishment is cannabalism, its using humans to feed an insatiable beast. the punishment should fit the crime but since when does the punishment become the crime. the punisher should become his own punisher. him or her can punish themselves how ever they feel necessary, or free them selves.

[eyeoftheday]

Originally Posted by Tricky D

Originally Posted by eyeoftheday In that case was God being insecure about is own abilies, or because he doubted Abraham?

no because he loved him.God is the Beacon of Faith, you can experience it, if you like. but with out him there is no fait.


Faith does not confine itself to Murphys law or his lawyers. it is something sublime, and is a precious stone you may posess if you like.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by eyeoftheday

we aren't roaches, we are human beings damn it.

I never said that humans are roaches. Nor did I ever implied it. I only claim that problems should be solved before they create more problems.
You do not let a deadly virus run it's course and infect others, or do you?

the punishment should fit the crime but since when does the punishment become the crime. the punisher should become his own punisher.

Unfortunately there are serial predators who do not believe that they have committed a crime at all. They would happily set themselves free and continue their crime spree.

It is so easy to claim that serial predators are victims, but they simply are not. They are PREDATORS who pray on the weak and innocent. To believe otherwise is to delude yourself and pretend that serial predators do not pose any danger to society.
You do not treat a wild animal as if it is a pet. To do so is only foolish.
Personally I'd say that it is your life, but returning serial predators into society affects me and those who I love too.

[Tricky D]

Originally Posted by eyeoftheday

no because he loved him.God is the Beacon of Faith, you can experience it, if you like. but with out him there is no fait.

I know my mother loves me, I have no doubts there.
If God is testing Abraham then he either is jealous or insecure, like any other sentient being.