Religion will eventually become obsolete (Revelations, prophets, devils, evidence)

[Campbell34]

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Originally Posted by Campbell34

Most of the prophecies that speak of future America will be found in the Old Testament, yet the name of America will not be found there. I might remind you, all of the prophecies that speak of Jesus Christ first coming will be found in the Old Testament as well. Yet the name Jesus Christ will not be found there either.

Maybe Jesus was not prophet the Old testament was talking about. Those who study Judaism and Islam, based on the OT, don't think he was.

And yet the Old Testament tells us that when Christ would come His own people would reject Him, and He would be betrayed by a friend for 30 peices of silver. I don't know of any other person in history who fulfilled the 300 prophecies of the Old Testament other than Jesus Christ.
Also according to Zec. chapter 12 verses 8 through 14 the Old Testament prophecy speaks of the end of time. It speaks of a time where God saves the Jews from many nations that would come to destroy them. The Jews themselves should be over joyed that finally God has intervined on their part. Yet we see just the oppsite. (And God tells us that the Jews of that time will look upon Him who they pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his first born. In that day there be a great mourning in Jerusalem,)

Why all the sadness, why are the Jews so upset? God has come to them, He has save them from this future invading army. They should be dancing in the streets of Jerusalem. Yet, the sadness will be because here at the end of time the Jews finally see who the King of the Jews really is. And sadly for all previous Jewish generations, it will be none other than Jesus Christ. The one that all previous Jewish generations have rejected. There only hope for salvation was rejected, and that is why the land shall morn and every family shall seperate. This will be the reason for the great mourning in Jerusalem.

[GCSTroop]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Most of the prophecies that speak of future America will be found in the Old Testament, yet the name of America will not be found there. I might remind you, all of the prophecies that speak of Jesus Christ first coming will be found in the Old Testament as well. Yet the name Jesus Christ will not be found there either. So how does one understand how we get to either Jesus or America being the principal subject? The Bible is big on giving descriptions, and it does this is such detail that it leaves the student of the Bible with no room for error. In the case of Jesus Christ the Old Testament gives you 300 prophecies that describes every aspect of Christ life, from the town of His birth, to His betrayal by a friend for 30 pecies of silver. And His mission to die for the sins of the world. The prophecies that speak of America are given in the same way. They speak of a powerful nation that exist during the time when the Jews are returning to Israel and Jerusalem. This nation is considered a great merchant nation that is one of the worlds great traders. It talks of a nation that is built on many waters and is made up of mingled races and people. It is a nation that can mount up into heaven, and speaks with a great voice in the world. It is a nation were world leaders stream to. And it is a nation that has a mountain of war that will be destroyed. It is also a nation that has a large Jewish population. Now there are other descriptions spoken in the Scriptures but theses are some of them. It is also a nation that has her own personal inland sea. Now some of these prophecies could fit other nations, yet only American has room for them all. Also the attacking nations will reside in the north, so this nation will have to be in the lower longitude.
Also, after this attack, it appears the other nations such as Russia, Europe, Middle East, and Asia are still intacked, so those nations would not appear to be on the hit list. As you start to go down the list it leaves little room for error, and really begins to narow down the options. Many of the other prophecies reguarding future America pretty much remove all doubt. Many years ago God showed me these prophecies, and this was long before this view had been considered by many Christians. Today if you type in (America is Babylon) there are countless sites that speak of this.

I can't sit here but laugh and think to myself....

The description sounds like Germany in 1939....

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by GCSTroop

I can't sit here but laugh and think to myself....

The description sounds like Germany in 1939....

Yes but Germany was not destroyed in one hours time and does not have her own personal sea, to suggest a couple things that would keep her out of the running. Also Germans are back in the land today, where as according to the Bible after Babylons distruction no one would ever be able to return to that land or even go back to remove a rock for a foundation.

[GCSTroop]

Originally Posted by Campbell34

Yes but Germany was not destroyed in one hours time and does not have her own personal sea, to suggest a couple things that would keep her out of the running. Also Germans are back in the land today, where as according to the Bible after Babylons distruction no one would ever be able to return to that land or even go back to remove a rock for a foundation.

And again the paradox is met.

People believe what they want to believe...

[Campbell34]

Originally Posted by GCSTroop

And again the paradox is met.

People believe what they want to believe...

That's true, I just always think it's better to believe in something that is supported by facts that can be considered. Otherwise we are reduced to blind faith, which I don't believe in.

[bobmulk]

First off, NO ONE knows when Christ will return and there's no proof that America is referenced in the Bible. America is the strongest nation on earth NOW, but who knows what will happen in the future? The strong nation that will be destroyed could be someone coming up on the horizon...China perhaps?

Anyway, what's this got to do with the main question...religion becoming obsolete? Let's stick to the subject.

[womansister]

This is my first post in this forum, I just joined today.

My understanding is this: Religion is not NEEDED for one to be a follower of Christ. Christ is not a religion, but is the living word of GOD telling of the good news that we are not under the old law. We now have a choice weather to remain in darkness or live in the light of the Father through Christ.

To have a personal relationship with Christ (meaning we put him before and behind us, in all our thoughts and relationships with others and letting him be our driving influence). I believe we are the temple and Christ is the high priest and GOD is the Father. We are only able to have communication with GOD through Christ. Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Light.

Christ stretches out His hand and receives us and our request on the bridge we can't cross and talks and intercedes with the Father on our behalf. He alone can do this, not the church. I believe the church can only teach us what the Bible says and give us clues on how to receive Christ in our lives.

I do think the church is needed in some respects, not for religion sake but for fellowship with other like minded people. Because we all know that, all sin and fall short of the glory of God. So I think the church is needed for us to have support from our fellow man and to give support in this life. It is through other people that God works. He is a God of miracles, but it's through His persuasion in people that those miracles generate.

I personally do not attend church often. I can say that I do have a personal relationship with Christ, I talk and pray to Him daily. At night when everything is still, He talks to my mind and I hear him and He lets me know He is with me. I can see Him working in all areas of my life and it is through my personal relationship with Him and not just by going to church or having a religion, that I am able to live with hope and faith that I am not alone.

[Tricky D]

I believe that as long a church insists on hierarchy, religion will indeed become obsolete.

[GracieJJ]

The day religion becomes obselete cant come a day sooner..

[coosjoaquin]

I think religion might one day collapse or be different from what we experience today. Religions have that innate repulsion to change which puts it at odds with a dynamic society. Surely almost no religion will be the same if aliens are found or life is made in a lab or computers get so advanced that they can think