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View Poll Results: DID YOU PRAY THAT PRAYER AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD TO GOD?
YES 5 7.35%
NO 31 45.59%
I ALREADY PRAYED THAT PRAYER BEFORE 29 42.65%
OTHER 3 4.41%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-15-2007, 11:48 AM
 
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I said that prayer for years - many years ago - and I meant it.
But I marked "no" on the poll because I have since rescinded it.
I no longer worship Jesus and I do not believe in Heaven.
Do you think I'm still heaven-bound because I HAVE said it?
I think my rejection of Jesus as messiah qualifies me for hell in the mainstream Christian view.

 
Old 11-15-2007, 12:11 PM
 
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I said that prayer for years - many years ago - and I meant it.
But I marked "no" on the poll because I have since rescinded it.
I no longer worship Jesus and I do not believe in Heaven.
Do you think I'm still heaven-bound because I HAVE said it?
I think my rejection of Jesus as messiah qualifies me for hell in the mainstream Christian view.
Many,many,many christians will one day have to answer to God for all their pride and judgmental attitudes...Many of us do not worship Jesus..He is the son..Worship God by recognizing his Son as t5he savior..
 
Old 11-15-2007, 12:36 PM
 
Location: UK
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Yes! I do have a hotline to God! It's called "The Bible"
Ask yourself this question; If the bible didn't exist would you still believe in a g-d?
 
Old 11-15-2007, 04:11 PM
 
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I said that prayer for years - many years ago - and I meant it.
But I marked "no" on the poll because I have since rescinded it.
I no longer worship Jesus and I do not believe in Heaven.
Do you think I'm still heaven-bound because I HAVE said it?
I think my rejection of Jesus as messiah qualifies me for hell in the mainstream Christian view.
You can pray that prayer and it not come from your heart. In that case, you still would not be saved. That's why I put on there to pray that prayer TO GOD, FROM YOUR HEART. If you reject Jesus Christ, then I don't personally believe that you ever had a relationship with Him to begin with. Can you honestly say that you had a genuine relationship with Him? No way. Anyone who has, would NEVER reject Him.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I said that prayer for years - many years ago - and I meant it.
But I marked "no" on the poll because I have since rescinded it.
I no longer worship Jesus and I do not believe in Heaven.
Do you think I'm still heaven-bound because I HAVE said it?
I think my rejection of Jesus as messiah qualifies me for hell in the mainstream Christian view.
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Originally Posted by xfrodobagginsx View Post
You can pray that prayer and it not come from your heart. In that case, you still would not be saved. That's why I put on there to pray that prayer TO GOD, FROM YOUR HEART. If you reject Jesus Christ, then I don't personally believe that you ever had a relationship with Him to begin with. Can you honestly say that you had a genuine relationship with Him? No way. Anyone who has, would NEVER reject Him.

You two are getting into the old "once saved, always saved?" question. For my .02, b. frank may have actually been saved at one time, but my interpretation of scripture is that yes, you can once know the Lord and later reject Him. Those who believe "once saved, always saved" would believe that he never really knew Him.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 05:07 PM
 
Location: South East UK
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You can pray that prayer and it not come from your heart. In that case, you still would not be saved. That's why I put on there to pray that prayer TO GOD, FROM YOUR HEART. If you reject Jesus Christ, then I don't personally believe that you ever had a relationship with Him to begin with. Can you honestly say that you had a genuine relationship with Him? No way. Anyone who has, would NEVER reject Him.
What do you say about the likes of me that do not want to be saved, and do not want a relationship with any God, thanks very much?
 
Old 11-15-2007, 05:35 PM
 
Location: All around the world.....
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RE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?
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THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD KNOW:

1. REALIZE THAT YOU ARE A SINNER AND IN NEED OF A SAVIOR:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. BECAUSE OF OUR SINS, WE DIE BOTH SPIRITUALLY AND PHYSICALLY, BUT GOD SENT HIS SON TO TAKE OUR PUNISHMENT AND GIVE US A CHANCE NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO HELL.

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. IF WE WILL ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR LORD WITH OUR MOUTHS AND BELIEVE IN OUR HEARTS THAT HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD, BY DOING THIS WE ARE RECEIVING HIM:

Ro 10:9,10 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."

Joh 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: {power: or, the right, or, privilege}
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You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus and asking Him to forgive you for your sins and save you. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS? DO YOU ACCEPT WHAT HE DID FOR YOU TO PAY FOR YOUR SINS?

4. If you are willing to receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior please pray this right now, from your heart to God,

"Dear LORD JESUS, I believe that YOU died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, take me to heaven when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me. In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you prayed that prayer from your heart to God, and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven when you die.

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:31 PM
 
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What do you say about the likes of me that do not want to be saved, and do not want a relationship with any God, thanks very much?
I would say that it's you're right to choose the path of damnation, but I scratch my head as to why in the world anyone would want to spend eternity tormented, alone and without hope, but yes, that is your choice.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 09:33 PM
 
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You two are getting into the old "once saved, always saved?" question. For my .02, b. frank may have actually been saved at one time, but my interpretation of scripture is that yes, you can once know the Lord and later reject Him. Those who believe "once saved, always saved" would believe that he never really knew Him.
How many people do you know of that can honestly say that they had a GENUINE relationship with the Lord and then turned away? Besides that, there are many verses that I could show you as well.
 
Old 11-15-2007, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Anywhere but here!
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How many people do you know of that can honestly say that they had a GENUINE relationship with the Lord and then turned away? Besides that, there are many verses that I could show you as well.
Honestly, I have always been a bit perplexed by the whole "Once saved, always saved" thing as well. While it is a nice thought, I too believe that one can ultimately change their ways. Things happen in people's lives that can change them in the most drastic of ways...including their belief/fondness of God.
Don't get me wrong, I am a Christian. I believe anyone that has honestly and humbly prayed and asked Jesus into their heart will be saved...UNLESS...something happens along their way to make them turn against Him. I don't think that means they weren't really saved to begin with, I think that means they CHANGED...Change does happen!
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