Romney: 'Freedom requires religion' - do you agree? (Mormonism, prophecy, LDS)

[juj]

If everyone but you is vacinated from small pox, will you get it? Of course not. There is no one to give it to you. If no one gets vacinated, will you get it? Probably.

If you practice no religion, but have morality, is it because of your personal inner born morality, or because you have seen, heard, and witnessed morality all around you by God fearing men and women. Now, I am not saying that there is no goodness within you, because I believe that you ARE born with so much potential good, but it's the environment around you, parents, mentors, teachers, friends, etc. that ultimately shape your lives into what you are today. Our laws today are based on a Judaio-Christian belief structure. So you see, you cannot escape religion for it governs you.

I say to you that your morality is the culmination of many a religious person's morality. Good for them.

[nativeDallasite]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

In his address today about his Mormon faith, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney made the following remarks:



Link to full speech

Do you agree with Romney, or do you think freedom and religion are separate entities?

I thought it was horrifying and just justified even more my decision to NOT vote for this idiotic clown.

[KCfromNC]

Originally Posted by juj

If everyone but you is vacinated from small pox, will you get it? Of course not. There is no one to give it to you. If no one gets vacinated, will you get it? Probably.

If you practice no religion, but have morality, is it because of your personal inner born morality, or because you have seen, heard, and witnessed morality all around you by God fearing men and women. Now, I am not saying that there is no goodness within you, because I believe that you ARE born with so much potential good, but it's the environment around you, parents, mentors, teachers, friends, etc. that ultimately shape your lives into what you are today.

That's true for everyone, religious people included. The religious just believe that the stuff passed down to them originally came from god(s). Despite this mistaken impression, the religious still generally tend to be productive members of society, so no reason to correct them.

Our laws today are based on a Judaio-Christian belief structure. So you see, you cannot escape religion for it governs you.

At best, it's based on the Christian belief structure minus the parts which are unique to Christianity - there's no laws prohibiting worshipping false idols, or requiring you to worship the Christian god. There's also nothing prohibiting things like coveting your neighbor's possessions, nor is there anything requiring you to repsect your parents, nor are their dietary laws or rules against mixing fabrics. So there's some overlap on the big things, but every society that wants to functions has these. There's very few of the unique Christian details included in the law. Sure, you get blue laws in some backwater towns, but there's nothing requiring us to love one another or turn the other cheek.

And I really wish people would stop using Judeao-Christian as a term. There's not much overlap between the theology of Jews and for Christians in a practical sense. Many Christians are probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about with outlawing mixed fabrics, which only furthers my point.

I say to you that your morality is the culmination of many a religious person's morality. Good for them.

Just like the religious person's morality is the culmination of many other (religious and non-religious) people's morality. They're just mistaken about there being a god involved.

[buildings_and_bridges]

Originally Posted by juj

I say to you that your morality is the culmination of many a religious person's morality. Good for them.

I thought the vast majority of us were born with a conscience. Wouldn't that contribute to one's morality?

[royalblewitup]

Freedom requires the ability to choose whether or not you want to follow a religion.


and that's that

[cg81]

Originally Posted by goldengrain

....instructs slaves to be loyal to their masters and good workers. He tells followers to 'render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's' (meaning don't get involved in bucking the establishment, but just go along to get along) and to work intead to 'store up treasures in heaven'.

That's because they're free.

[allah truth]

freedom is religion

[cg81]

Originally Posted by allah truth

freedom is religion

... and the only religion I am interested in is freedom.

[tablemtn]

ur laws today are based on a Judaio-Christian belief structure.

Well, they are also somewhat based on a Platonic and Aristotelian framework. Yet, this fact somehow doesn't drive me to believe in the pantheon of Greek gods...

[goldengrain]

Originally Posted by tablemtn

Well, they are also somewhat based on a Platonic and Aristotelian framework. Yet, this fact somehow doesn't drive me to believe in the pantheon of Greek gods...

Heretic !!!!